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The human mind almost always works the same way.

Scale of 1 to 10. 1 is least and 10 is best.

Noctua DH-14 is 9.7.

Frostwin is 9.3.

Now the question becomes is 0.4 of 10 worth twice the money.
 
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That should allow you more money to purchase a better motherboard which is the foundation of the whole system, after the power supply.

When configuring a system and money is a consideration, there always a little of this and a little of that to get to a 'good' place within the money we can spend.

So if we actually can find a 9.3 of 10 for half price against a 9.7, then today I go for the 9.3 and put my money into the other parts. I am never going to utilize the 9.7 today anyway. Good luck sir.
 
RGone, I couldn't find a review of the frostwin on frosty. However, on hardwaresecrets they show a huge difference between it and the hyper 212 plus and evo (unless there's a "newer" version of the frostwin). Whoever it was that said they're "too weak" for an 8150, I have to strongly disagree.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Deepcool-Frostwin-CPU-Cooler-Review/1573
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-Plus-CPU-Cooler-Review/956
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-EVO-CPU-Cooler-Review/1407

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2419
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2655
 
^Sorry Bubba, but in the last graph (a 130w TDP quad full load with a slight 10% OC), the 212 is 14°C hotter than the Megahalems, and 1°C colder than the Hyper TX3 (which is a VERY WEAK cooler):
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-Plus-CPU-Cooler-Review/956/7

The 212 is compared to low and mid end coolers (except for the Megahalems).

So no, the 212 can't handle a 125w CPU efficiently, and let's not talk about an OC'ed FX8150 that produces 200w!
 
The Saga...

Here is where I see "Arcanegrinarc" first come on the scene. One thing of note is that "almost" simultaneously, not quite but close he wound up with two threads running at the very same time. Not a good thing really in the same forum section but that is what was has happened. I have flipped back and forth between the two threads and even posted in one that "Arcanegrinarc" had decided to go with a new motherboard and he came into that thread and said YES that it was so.

This link in forum http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=713051
He writes >> My Pc Config :
8GB Ram
2GB Saphire Ati Radeon HD 5450
Amd Anthlon x2 II 260
500GB Harddisk
450W powersupply
Gigabyte 78lmt-s2pt

The thread title is Help me for Overclocking.

I am writing this for posting in his second thread under AMD CPU forum section and titled "Help me with FX-8150". Okay?

Anyway in the thread that was linked above, he posted back and forth and somehow jumped from having an AMD Athlon x2 260 to having bought/was buying an FX-8150. Not sure if it was already ordered or not but sounded like it was.

Then it was noted that the Gigabyte 78lmt-s2pt motherboard did not have Gigabyte support for FX-8150 and VRMs on that board were not even heat-sinked. Then he was pointed to a fair Asus motherboard more likely to deal with the FX-8150. HOWEVER in his money at the only site he can buy from he is about 1,500 of his monies short of being able to get even a fair Asus motherboard. Not sure how that was going to work, but it was fact.

Also in that first thread it was advised that he get a power supply since his was deemed not good. He was pointed to a power supply. Think he was now upgrading the power supply as well.

NOTE: this is the site he 'can/does' buy from. http://www.flipkart.com/?ref=ebd50d33-6430-4ca0-a50d-821de926546f&_pop=brdcrumb

Let me see if I can get it at least partially in order.
1. Was pointed somehow to FX-8150 since the only site he buys from did not have a really powerful AMD cpu other than the FX-hotties.

2. Then he was pointed to a new motherboard, that at last count he was 1,500 of his monies over-budget on.

3. He was pointed to purchasing a newer/better power supply.

4. He is going to get a new case as I understand it. AT least that is what I believe I understand.

5. He wants to upgrade his ATI 5xxx video card to an ATI 6xxx video card.

6. So now we are in this thread and we are 1,500 of his money short on getting a pretty good Asus mobo that is more likely to work with his power hungry FX-8150 and he begins to ask about CPU Cooling.

7. Noctua NH D-14 was suggested at about 6,000 of his monies. Not a bad air-cooler by any means. Still it is 6,000 of his monies. For AMD it was currently out of stock.

8. Dig and scratch and claw thru the limited CPU Coolers at the only site he buys from and looked at the Deepcool Frostwin and g00gled around the net trying to find a review of "Frostwin", that I felt to me was somewhat reliable since I could not find it at my own favorite FrostyTech website list of coolers in their order of performance on FrostyTech's website. Can you hear my 'dang' as I then had to find another review that seemed to show numbers I was accustomed to seeing?

9. So found the Deepcool Frostwin in a review at this link/location. http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/deepcool-frostwin/5/
They used a temp monitor that was somewhat familiar to me and actually tested with an FX-8150 cpu and showed their temps in a temp monitor program I had some understanding about . They also overclocked the FX-8150 to 4.6Ghz and put 1.5V to the cpu. That is a pretty hefty method of testing for the Frostwin to my mind.

10. So now say to myself, how often do we actually use every last bit of goody out of a system. How often do I really need something that is 6,000 of his monies against 3,000 of his monies? I suggested he go with the Deepcool Frostwin cooler. Now to my mind he is 3,000 of his monies to the good. Money in the bank as it were for that motherboard he was 1,500 of his monies short on. I liked the numbers I saw in temp monitoring software of an FX-8150 and even though the Frostwin was n0t a Noctua NH D-14, it appeared close enough when the rest of his expenses were figured in. In the review I saw of the Frostwin, there were pictures suggesting that the Frostwin was not so large as to interfere with memory and the like and was only 151mm tall, which is a plus for tight real-estate.

Sadly many of us and that includes me have always subscribed to the theory of if one is good then four of them would be four times better or faster and we have often gone for the four when 1 or 2 would have been very sufficient. You know...if you got it, then flaunt it.

I have endevoured only to give the best physical/financial guidance to "Arcanegrinarc" based on his budget considerations. If I have not done so, then I likely should be drawn and quartered. Maybe I am just an old fool now and cannot keep it between the ditches any longer. I tried.

I think that makes current the saga of "Arcanegrinarc", a user that has been very polite and has listened and tried to accomodate all the advice pro-offered him. Thank you.
 
Rgone, I am not talking about the Frostwin, but about the 212...

Even, checking the Frostwin review, staying in the 70's with 1.5v (2600k), I really doubt on the numbers (what was the ambient? 10°C?).

A custom water loop hardly keeps it in the 70's @1.5v and 21/22°C ambient...

EDIT: kind of different results here http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/deepcool_frostwin/4.htm and here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Deepcool-Frostwin-CPU-Cooler-Review/1573/6

Guys I'm Gone Mad What To Do??
I ordered - Fx8150 and Msi 7850 GPU and also Corsair 400r Cabinet
and even about to order a new ASUS M5A97 Motherboard and after that i just have 5000 money only left with me
 
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Guys I'm Gone Mad What To Do??
I ordered - Fx8150 and Msi 7850 GPU and also Corsair 400r Cabinet
and even about to order a new ASUS M5A97 Motherboard and after that i just have 5000 money only left with me

Guys I'm Gone Mad What To Do?? = You do not have to do anything at this moment.

The FX-8150 comes with an original equipment cpu cooler if it is the boxed version. You can run that cooler until later. No need to just have to overclock the very instant you receive new parts. If you leave the green stuff on in the bios and use the cpu as designed, you may well not even need an aftermarket cooler. Gives you time to test and see how the system works without trying to clock it up immediately.

The Noctua NH D-14 that was 'first' recommended is more than your left over 5,000 anyway. Using the OEM cooler as designed to run for a little bit will give you time to get the additional money over 5,000 that you need for the out of stock D-14.

That is what i would suggest to keep you from going mad today.

RGone...ster. :chair:
 
Good advice RGone ..... +1^^^^^

Arcanegrinarc .... RGone is right the stock cooler will work just fine. Give it a try and see what kind of temps you get with it. I am sure it will work well enough till you decide that .....

A - It's doing the job and keeping your temps in line

or

B - You decide to get a better cooler because of High Temps you decide to Overclock your CPU. At this point you will have had a bit of time to try to save a bit more money for the cooler that you want.
 
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RGone, gotcha.....(lord that sounds like a mess). Arcane, just keep following RGone's advice. Also try to just stick to one thread. I think you must have 3 or 4 going at the same time as I saw you with the "cpu cooler" thread as well as this one and it sounds like RGone has been helping you in this one and yet another one. It's never good to have that many threads open asking the same questions.
 
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