hurry before gone opteron 144 in stock

[funnyperson1]

Imho one of the real criminals here is newegg, I had decided upon an ASRock mobo from them and go to look for a 3000+ (which my dad had gotten like a week and a half earlier for $140) and they have jacked the price to $190? The 3200+ is $179 about $15 more than other places I found. And you know they will be getting the lowest prices for pretty much any etailer, being one of the largest sites.

And of course they were one of the worst offenders with the Opteron pricing.

I have been really dissapointed with the direction newegg has been heading in with the new management. That direction is down.

Or the biggest problem here could be AMD. Articles like this one from the inquirer: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28252 do suggest that perhaps they have no idea what they are doing business wise?

 

[benbaked]

fry's continued to sell the 3000+ venice for $129...a decent price and a deal compared to the ripoff prices that e-tailers were charging for it just a couple of weeks ago. i swear i saw it for $160-$170 at places (i think newegg was one of them).

EDIT: i just checked it on newegg, they want $190 for a retail 939 venice 3000+, this processor is selling right now at fry's for $129! pretty steep there newegg. plus they want $5 on top of that for sh**ty UPS shipping. i miss the newegg of yesteryear.

still though, i don't think overcharging makes a reseller a criminal. you agree to the price when you click the add to cart button. if you don't agree with the price, don't buy it.

EDIT: that said, i still think newegg is getting ridiculous with their prices. good thing there are plenty of other places that sell computer parts.

 

[Mooyo]

I remember when the rumor just started, newegg among others were selling opteron 146 for $250.
Could it be that newegg and others had already bought them (AMD's price), plenty in stock, cooking the rumor?
If there were 200,000 opteron sold withing those 2 weeks, that is $20M
"overcharge" "overprofit", "gouged out of people"
I dont call this gouging, I call it "FEDERAL CRIME"

I heard the the rumor weeks before Tankguys posted on this forum. At the time Tankguys posted his thread, Newegg didn't even carry the 939 opterons. I know because I was shopping around for them for awhile and was most comfortable with Newegg. But they didn't have any. I purchased my 144 from Tankguys on 11/1/05. By that time I had already known/heard about the rumor about them going out of stock.

edit..... Mooyo, can you confirm this? You never know.

Can I prove it that Tankguys had started the rumor? Of course not. But was he the first to say it on these forums? Hell no. The rumor was floating around the mid of October and whether or not you want to believe that is your choice. All I know is that I bought my opty instead of an X2 because I had heard from multiple sources they wern't going to be commercially available anymore. Then I saw Tankguys had em instock for $145 and I jumped on it. The rumor was spread around by that point so wouldn't it make sense that if he's the crook you are making him out to be, that he would haved priced them a lot higher to make more profit off of them at that point in time?

Now on the flipside, can either of you prove that he did start it? What proof do you have whatsoever that he was the first person to start the rumor? Or are we just going to keep going on the path of calling him a crook with no real reason for it?

It sounds like you guys are ****ed off at Newegg more than anything else and that makes plenty sense. They really have changed their practices as of late.

 

[Reefa_Madness]

Selling something in an open market, for whatever the market price will bear, is simply good business.

There is no gun to any buyer's head or any other type of duress. If you look up the definition of Fair Market Value you will get something to the effect of this: The price at which a buyer, without duress, if willing to pay and a seller, without duress, is willing to sell. Simple and to the point...and describes exactly what has taken place with the Opterons.

Perhaps those that feel different will someday run a business and look back upon this event with a different perspective.

Edit:
I've tried to be the voice of reason here, but it appears that fustrations are getting the better of some, so I'll just leave it with you guys to deal with it as you see fit. Just use caution with your accusations or you may find that they can come back to bite you.

 

[Mooyo]

I'm gonna pull a Reefa here and leave the thread. Any accusations against Tankguys are pointless by now. People are going to have their opinions in the face of facts and unfortunately that's just how it's going to be.

 

[funnyperson1]

If in fact Tankguys or someone else made up these rumors to drive up demand, then yes I think they would be in legal hot water. Otherwise as others stated retailers were simple settings prices as high as people were willing to pay at which point its not the retailers fault for making money, its the customer's fault for being an idiot willing to overpay (as too many are nowadays).

However, I don't feel that was the case and really this is just an example of AMD executive incompetence more than anything.

Also this shouldn't have to be said, but Tankguys is a member here, and calling someone a crook would be considered flaming. So unless you have any concrete evidence, perhaps you should state the point in a more civil manner.

 

[TankGuys]

By now, with all the assumptions people have made about us based on this thread and others, I *REALLY* wish I hadn't ever said anything about the opteron shortages.

At the time though, they were completely unavailable anywhere, I had multiple reps at a few diffierent distributors telling me they were going away, high level people at AMD telling me the same thing, and all evidence from our end pointed this way. When I came out with the info, I did so because I thought people would want to know, and I had already been out of stock for some time. Even now, they are still hard to source, and still a lot of talk about AMD only shipping them to ISVs.

Never, during the entire period of Opteron shortages did we "price gouge". We were consistently the cheapest store around, often by $40+. We're higher right now, as I paid a significant premium just to source our most recent shipment. We are not price gouging on the A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboards we just shipped, and we are not price gouging on the Opterons we have now. So why people say we are crooks and price gougers, I don't even begin to understand.

On top of all that, we have never had a problem selling out of these Opterons. Usually, we post them, and they are gone within 3 days.

Yes, I did post about possible shortages. However, every possible piece of evidence points to the fact that we did not do so for any personal gain.

At this point, there's nothing more I can really say about it, so anyone who still seems intent on blaming us for this, or still feels like we're thieves and crooks, then so be it... you're welcome to your own opinions, no matter how unfounded and baseless they are.

 

[TankGuys]

Maybe "crooks" was a harsh word w/ no legal implications, recourse, and proof.

Yes, and thank you for recognizing this.

But I wasn’t calling you a "crook" I was referring to online stores as a whole.
people need to read my sentence again.
it is pathetic that 49% of college graduates(according to polls) can not comprehend a paragraph. It appears to be true (don’t tell me I am accusing you for your lack understanding a sentence. Do you see your name or direct reference to you?).

You lumped our business in with all the others in calling them crooks and such; and I am the business owner, so my business = me. Thus it is not unreasonable to take the comments personally. It's not an issue of reading comprehension, more a poor job of stating your position.

If it seemed I was attacking a member here, I apologize.

Apology accepted. Just think hard and learn all the facts before you make blanket statments (especially negative ones like that). I did take it quite personally, and I think I was justified in so doing. In any case, no hard feelings, water under the bridge eh?

 

[OC Detective]

Maybe "crooks" was a harsh word w/ no legal implications, recourse, and proof.
But I wasn’t calling you a "crook" I was referring to online stores as a whole.
people need to read my sentence again.
it is pathetic that 49% of college graduates(according to polls) can not comprehend a paragraph. It appears to be true (don’t tell me I am accusing you for your lack understanding a sentence. Do you see your name or direct reference to you?) .

Ochungry - take a deep breath and think about things before you jump in with your size 12s.

Are tankguy, newegg, Mwave, monarch etc are taking advantage of this and ripping consumer off? you bet you.
What is the diference between gasoline price gouging and opteron price gouging? none, both sellers are crooks.

That would seem to be a direct reference to TankGuys however you parse your sentence!

 

[situman]

mwave has it in stock for $149. hurry.

Edit: it is now $143.

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/ViewProducts.hmx?PID=CPU-TBIRD&updepts=CPU&DNAME=Processors+-+CPU

The tankguy had opteron 146 for $175 yesterday and mwave had it in stock for $165.
today mwave no stock and both mwave and tankguy jack up the price.
I hope tankguy is not buying them to make it out of stock and then raising the price.
Dirty, isnt it?
first creat a rumer, then creat a shortage.
I know I wont be buying jack from tankguy. hope no one buys there either.

I guess you would never buy anything from ZZF, Eggy or Monarch or any other online retail store ever again.

 

[teddy-2 john]

FIRST-ochungry why are you atacking tank guys?
second- he is giveing the chance to buy parts that you can`t find ....and he is nice to tell us when he has them [parts] what more could you ask FOR...ochungry you make me sick... please keep us updated tank guys Please- thanks

 

[OC Detective]

No I did not apologize, and I am fed up w/ all your asinine remarks

Ah so you were not attacking a member on the forums then?

Is that the jangling of the locksmith's keys I hear?

 

[Nexus Realized]

Is that the MSN browser I see?

 

[teddy-2 john]

like this price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103598 only $279 or this one for $185 http://www.tankguys.biz/opteron-cache-socket-p-1420.html ,,,i still think you just want to argue with people

 

[Wisdom]

For what it's worth, here's a HardOCP forum discussion on 11/11/05 that starts alluding to upcoming Opteron supply issues. So it seems like the concern was already in community play and discussion before the dates mentioned by ochungry.


- Wisdom

 

[Cheator]

Frig. Can't someone close this thread? This ain't no thread about opty stock, its bout how tank guys screw everyone, and have this strange conspiracy. "OMG! They raised their prices! out of all the stores ever creatd in the universe, that has never happened! Ever!".

If you guys want to go accusing people, I don't really think this is the place. to accuse someone, who you don't even know anything about, of commiting unethical things is just ridiculous. Its all about you ain't it. Screw standard business practices, if the price goes up, you're a criminal.

 

[CoachB22]

I am SO glad we have Freedom of Speech in this country. Where else could we be exposed to Ochungry's hilarity???

And I think I've figured out OCs beef.....since OC thinks TankGuys is screwing everyone, he wants a verbal hug to go with it. He wants TankGuys to change his moniker to ThanksGuys.

OC....socialist or communist? We know your no capitalist!

CoachB

 

[mdcomp]

I don't mind you guys going off on a tangent so much as I mind vendors being called crooks, let's try and keep it a bit more civil. I am willing to let this sort of off-topic discussion continue, but remember there is a right and wrong way to express yourself. Thanks fellas.


Matt

 

[funnyperson1]

I will post on topic. My 144 Opteron has been shipped from mwave and should arrive on the same day as my ASRock mobo from Newegg (12/27), I will post OC results and such whenever I have them.

Also anyone know how high these might go on stock cooling? I don't have the money for a nice cooler yet, and rather than get something cheap now, I would rather push it with stock and get something nice later (XP-90 maybe?).

 

[benbaked]

i've found the stock cooler to be pretty beefy. i have my 144 running prime and f@h stable at 2.7ghz and 1.5vcore (doing both for at least 48 hours now) and the load temps fluctuate between 42c and 44c. the highest i've seen it at load is 47c and that was with a 1500w space heater turned on full blast in the room. it idles in the low 30s.

it would be nice if amd would ship the DC heatpipe coolers across the opteron line, i'd like to see what that would do to temps.