hey thanks Knufire, like i said earlyer im doing research and rebuilding all my old pc's to get the hang of this gig, iv always liked computers but the area i live in...lets just say they're lucky to know what the "start" button is lol.. so i havnt been able to really get into this stuff, but now that i have found a legit OC blog site that isnt *** holes, .net counterpart, i can do this, plus im going to school to get degrees in mulitiple areas of computers from networking to computer engineer. i know thats allot to do in my short life but hey if your gonna do computers, do it right. so hopefully all that will help out with this and maybe just maybe i can do this as a hobby, the whole OC team thing. start school this January so wish me luck.