JC's Chilly1 SS

[Joe Camel]

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if some of the pictures in this thread do NOT show up, try hitting refresh (a few times) this seems to get the pics to load.
sorry for any inconvenience.

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lets just get the pics out of the way first...







my very first contact test mount on a (IHS removed) X2 3800...(i know i know, i used TOOOOO much AS5)



i put a "blob" of AS5 on the CPU and mounted a clean head...



i think that looks like good contact...(do U?)


well, huh...what more is there to say?


ill post updates ASAP

 

[proth]

Nice setup JC.. See you also have the GFroster-Xe controller.. Is this the "standard" 1/2HP Chilly1 SS with R507a. Good luck on the scores man..

 

[Ross]

Lookin good Joe! Fire it up...we need to see 8K in 3D06

 

[Joe Camel]

@proth, wish i knew... i PMed him about some specs on the unit and all chilly said was "specs are as all my units -38 to -44 at idle evap temp.."

so i asked more spacific questions...well see what kind of answers i get

still in test mode:
(im going to test-mount about 3-4 times B4 im confident im making GOOD contact EVERY time)

 

[hainer36]

mmmm sexy

 

[Joe Camel]

2nd test mount... YUCK!!!! NOT good!!



wouldnt have killed the chip (if run as is), but results would NOT have been (too) good


EDIT:
the "top" was nice and tight, but the "bottom" looks a little weak.
time for more pot of coffee (not a typo )

 

[Electron Chaser]

Looking forward to seeing more pics. Remember 3rd time is a charm.

 

[Joe Camel]

ya but the trick is; when do you "trust" the mount and not check it...

 

[greenmaji]

Did you think about lapping that evap?

Good luck mounting her.

 

[Ross]

Is this the "standard" 1/2HP Chilly1 SS with R507a. Good luck on the scores man..

I don't think 1/2HP is anywhere near "standard" in his SS. You can ask for one, but I think the default is 1/4-1/3HP, which is what I have. Unless he started using r507 straight, chilly uses gas blends a LOT to increase capacity and cooling.

i PMed him about some specs on the unit and all chilly said was "specs are as all my units -38 to -44 at idle evap temp.."

so i asked more spacific questions...well see what kind of answers i get

Sounds about right. Good luck on getting a straight answer He sometimes has a very uncanny way of answering a question without answering the question, LOL Bottom line is, they are great units and you won't find anything better for anywhere near the price.

Do they sell shims for that proc? Might be a good investment...

 

[Joe Camel]

@greenmaji , yes, i did...

the pics really make it look worse than it is but the thought has DEFIANTLY crossed my mind...

ok you talked me into it, ill lap it

im too tiered (already) to finish this tonight anyway...lapping and then a few more test mounts and im off to bed.



for those who dont know...

back story:

my B-Day was yesterday and i bought myself a present...can you guess what it was?

this unit was up for sale on XS...brand new, unused, full 1x year warranty, and it was located in Philadelphia PA (a MUCH shorter drive from Cleveland (OH) than Las Vegas ) thus i could pick it up (to avoid damage in shipping)...

i drove 630+ miles (round trip) to pick it up today...thats about 11 hours... and i started @ 8am .... im tired


PS Amps, the guy who sold it to me, drove 4x hours (round) to shorten my trip... a BIG to you Amps!!


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@Ross

ya, ive "spoken" to him a year or so back about Mach mods... so i kinda knew what i was in for ... the GREAT ones are usually a little...diferant...?

sorry "coffee" makes me chatty

more EDITs

@ Ross, i learned to mount a HSF (way back when) on an AMD Paly core... im not worried about damage to the core... even my FX-57

 

[proth]

Hit the sack Joe... Too many mistakes made when tired. Man the bencher has come alive in you, and by the way:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE CAMEL

Couldn't find any party hat Icons..

 

[El<(')>Maxi]

Here's one

hipro did some extensive testing using several different TIM's and Ceramique was easily the best.

From XS

This was done some time ago with a Prometeia phase change.......So Ceramic for ever under subzero temps........

 

[Joe Camel]

@ proth, thanks

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impossible to lap...the hose throws off the "feel" WAAAy too much to do anything other than damage to the surface

although from the few passes i did make, i can tell you:
its pretty damn flat
and
its REAL soft!!
dont know if there are "grades" of copper (like AU) but if there are, this is "SOFT".

 

[greenmaji]

Happy Happy Birthday Joe!!

And man it was tough to talk you into lapping that evap.

 

[Joe Camel]

WOW Maxi... i never saw that!!

good thing im "practicing" with this AS5 junk... i only have a few apps of Ceramique left



EDIT


the sink cut-out from a granite counter top, my TIM's, and what about 4-5 passes on (new) 600 grit paper leave behind :

 

[Joe Camel]

ok, here is a BIG do NOT do...

when using "round" mounting hardware...do NOT mount the head and then rotate the mobo!!!!!!

the mounting hardware will stay in place but the head can "spin" and the edges of your (IHS removed) CPU will scrape (gouge) the base causing (yet to be determined) damage to the actual CPU die...


i didnt have it 100% tight which was a bad thing since it *might* not have turned if TIGHT and it was @ an angle so the leading edge "cut" into the base...


@ proth and Ross: see, you TOLD me so!!!!!!!!

 

[Ross]

Uh oh. Man you keep beating that proc up I hope it's OK.

Yeah, Ceramique only for -C cooling. I completely missed the fact that you were test fitting with it, good catch Maxi.

Since I seem to be the only one who hasn't said it yet: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

 

[Joe Camel]

thanks guys !!

well, as the old saying goes: "stupidity is the mother of desperation" ...

no no no, its: "necessity is the mother of invention"

i figured out a way to lap the head (and remove the gouge mark)



sorry, this was the last shot B4 the bats went dead in the camera...but i think you get the idea its better than it was B4




edit:
ive mounted 3x more times today and still cant get as good a pattern as my very first one...

 

[proth]

Maxi, Thanks for that chart...I know the talk is that AS5 needs time to "set up" and work properly, but my findings are that AS5 performance degrades in a few days even working above 0c, especially under load. Paid special attention to temps on my last set of benches and noticed a 2-3c rise in load temps with the exact water block temp, although idle temps were about the same. I'll foregoe the AS5 is phase ever gets here.

Joe, Really hope no damage to the CPU, If you have time, please let me know unconnected evap head temps or evap temps with minimal load....AND...the rating on the compressor, maybe on the nameplate...??

EDIT: Just saw the -50 on the Gfroster display, so that's probably it