My ~150 dollar WC setup, yay or nay?

[Mrr.guy]

I was looking for some parts for a 150 dollar wc setup or around there, and found these myself-

This pump from frozenCPU $64

This dual 120mm Rad $61

Either this DD tdx or apogee GT $53

7ft or so of targon $22

1/2 to 1/4 redducer for future OCZ flexxlc ram

Edit-Oh, and ill be adding some blue UV dye, i love the look of a glowing case.

Are these good? Looking to get my e6400 (will be buying a p5n32-e soon) to atleast 3.5ghz. Good setup for a budget?

Also, slightly off-topic, but im selling my currenty pc5400 OCZ soe sticks (currently running at 800mhz) to buy the OCZ flexXLC pc6400. Good idea?
I have the 1/2 to 1/4 reducers so i can cool the ram also hopefully to around 900mhz or so.

Think i can do all of this in just one loop? Well actually only my CPU and the ram, but wouldnt reducing the loop to 1/4 then back to 1/2 slow the flow or highten my temps some?

New to WC and computers in general, so excuse me if i misspelled or said something wrong. Much appreciated.

Apparently it comes out to 203. I probably be able to scrounge up a few more dollars here or there.

 

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

dont get tygon, get masterkleer, that will save you like 15 bucks right off the bat....then get a different pump...that one you chose isnt too great. look for a D5, that will be alot better. then a different radiator, go with liek this http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4...ealth_240_Radiator_-_Black.html?tl=g30c95s160

defiantely go with the GT over the TDX, its a given that the GT will spank it.

 

[Mrr.guy]

The rad i picked out is the higher version of what you showed me isnt it?..
And tubing alright thanks. Ill go google the d5 pump and hmm..i thought DD was suposed to be better? Thanks for the help man

 

[CCUABIDExORxDIE]

the BIXII isnt reall better...its depends, do you plan on using high pressure fans (loud) or lower CFM fans (quieter)

 

[SiGfever]

I was looking for some parts for a 150 dollar wc setup or around there, and found these myself-

This pump from frozenCPU $64

This dual 120mm Rad $61

Either this DD tdx or apogee GT $53

7ft or so of targon $22

1/2 to 1/4 redducer for future OCZ flexxlc ram

Edit-Oh, and ill be adding some blue UV dye, i love the look of a glowing case.

Are these good? Looking to get my e6400 (will be buying a p5n32-e soon) to atleast 3.5ghz. Good setup for a budget?

Also, slightly off-topic, but im selling my currenty pc5400 OCZ soe sticks (currently running at 800mhz) to buy the OCZ flexXLC pc6400. Good idea?
I have the 1/2 to 1/4 reducers so i can cool the ram also hopefully to around 900mhz or so.

Think i can do all of this in just one loop? Well actually only my CPU and the ram, but wouldnt reducing the loop to 1/4 then back to 1/2 slow the flow or highten my temps some?

New to WC and computers in general, so excuse me if i misspelled or said something wrong. Much appreciated.

Apparently it comes out to 203. I probably be able to scrounge up a few more dollars here or there.

1) D5
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP655-12-VDC-Pump-pr-2982.html

2) MCR220-QP or MCR320-QP
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCR-220-Radiator-Black-pr-3199.html

3) D-Tek FuZion or Apogee GT
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-Apogee-GT-universal-water-block-pr-3639.html

4) 7/16"id x 5/8"od MasterKleer or Tygon

*** http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa1.html

 

[Mrr.guy]

CCU-hopefully lower so its quieter, but im looking for temps and an OC, not a case to show off thats slow or high temp'd.

Sig-Thanks ill check it out price wise and such also. Someone IMed me and the WW le block (30), black ice rad (30), and the swiftech d5 would be a decent budget setuip.

 

[Otter]

What are you goals for this system? Do you plan to heavily overvolt your chips? What is your noise tolerance?

This pump from frozenCPU $64

You can get the DDC-2/MCP355 for about the same price. It's a low flow, high head pump, but you can modify the top cheaply yourself for better flow, and the high pressure head is perfect for watercooling. Here are two links for the mod. Unfortunately, both are down atm. The google cache of the second article seems to have all the images, though.

Systemcooling.com has been down for a week or two, but at least now they've got Apache up. This is the original mod article. It includes a PQ chart for the modified pump.
http://systemcooling.com/mcp350_mod-01.html

Here's another one on Bit-tech.net that also shows how to mod the outlet for 1/2" tubing. The ID diameter of the outlet remains stock, though, so this is mostly for convenience.
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=1440226

If that link doesn't work, you can use Google's cache of the article.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...howthread.php?p=1440226&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl

Of if you don't want to mess with all that, don't mind a little more noise, and have room for a larger pump, get the D5/MCP655. In most loops, it will give you about the same performance without mods.

Edit: Come to think of it, the DDC-2 performs fairly well without the mod too. It made a lot more difference with the original 10W pump than with the new 18W pump.

This dual 120mm Rad $61

The BIX is okay if you're going to use high powered fans. If you intend to use quiet fans, take a look at these alternatives:

CoolingWorks CoolRad-22T
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...ad-22T_Dual_120mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s160

Swiftech MCR-220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835108086&ATT=35-108-086&CMP=OTC-Froogle

And if you have room for it, spend the extra 20 bucks to get a triple rad.

7ft or so of targon $22

If you're on a budget, I second the recommendation to go with Masterkleer.

1/2 to 1/4 redducer for future OCZ flexxlc ram

Watercooling RAM is usually more trouble than it's worth. It's definitely less trouble with a factory waterblock, but think about this a couple more times before you commit to it. If you still want to do it, I suggest using a pair Y's to reduce restriction through the RAM section of your loop. Seems to me I saw 1/2"x1/4"x1/4" Y-adapters somewhere recently... maybe at Ace Hardware. Could be I'm imagining them, but if I'm not and you can find these, they'd be just the thing.

 

[Kasso]

i think swiftech makes an "F" fitting where two of the ends, the "L" part is 1/2" and the other outlet is 1/4" those fittings are probably going to give you the best performance:least restriction. and if you ever sell your ram or dont want to wc them anymore, you can just elminate the 1/4" part. for the pump, i say get the mcp 355/ddc-2 with an alphacool top, and get one of those "quiet" radiators Otter suggested, with some yate-loon fans. that should keep you cool and quiet at the same time.

*edit* heres the "F" Fitting. http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-F-Fittings-1-2-pr-3600.html

 

[WonderingSoul]

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/bliceproiiit.html

Best rad for the price if you got the room for it.

 

[Mrr.guy]

ah, that F fitting looks pretty convienant.

Otter-, thanks for the siggestions. That swiftech rad doesn't look half bad for the price! Would it be good to use that rad, yate loon mediums, and a white water LE block?
I think ill try cooling my ram, im not sure. that F fitting sure could make it a lot simpler.

Just googled the ddc-2. all pumps seem to be about 70 bucks. I have seen this pump a lot around the forums i thought.

 

[voigts]

Sig and Otter are steering you straight. Don't try to go from 1/2" to 1/4" to watercool your RAM as that is really going to hurt your flow. A fan blowing on RAM is all they should ever need. The Swiftech MCR rads are the better choice over the Black Ice rads.

Also, Frozen CPU usually is way overpriced. You will do a lot better with vendors like Sidewindercomputers, jab-tech, and crazy-pc just to name a few.

 

[WonderingSoul]

Personally, I think you should wait until you have classified access and then get some real deals on used stuff from them. That would be the way to go.

Used pumps are like 50-60. I just picked up a WW block for 19.50 shipped and rads are pretty cheap too. Just to give you an idea of how much money you can save. Also check out moto's 100 watercooling guide.

You can go even cheaper than that if you can get your hands on a used block as well.

 

[Otter]

That swiftech rad doesn't look half bad for the price! Would it be good to use that rad, yate loon mediums, and a white water LE block?

Yep, that would work work well. The low speed fans will probably be enough, but the D12SM-12's are a good choice if you're not sure how much fan you need. They move a fair amount of air at 12V, but are also somewhat noisy because of all that air flow. At 5V, though, they are inaudible. They also handle PWM well. If you want RPM monitoring, though, be sure the fans you buy have it. Yate Loon makes all their fans both with and without, and if a vendor doesn't say there's an RPM wire, there probably isn't.

Just googled the ddc-2. all pumps seem to be about 70 bucks. I have seen this pump a lot around the forums i thought.

Yes, they're very popular right because they're actually made for watercooling computers. The original DDC was designed for a watercooled Mac of some sort, and the DDC-2 is a hopped up version based on something Cathar said in one of the forums.

 

[Mrr.guy]

Alright well im looking for a low noise fan. Im assuming those rads are made more for lower cfm fans, which or more (or less) what i want. I still want to hit atleast 3.5ghz on my e6400. Im assuming atleast 450*8?

 

[Otter]

The Yate Loon D12SL-12 is very popular with silencers and only costs about three bucks. And yes, the MCR-220, and CR-22T are good with quiet fans. They're actually a little better than the venerable BIP.