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tungureanu You were right regarding the CPU throttling , I turned off quiet and cool and am getting more consistency in framerates - Thanks

ATMINSIDE, EarthDog
Regarding VRM GPU-Z is seeing temps of around 60 Celcius Underload Playing Wolfenstein , Grid Autosport and Tomb Raider - Does not concern me to be honest
dat horse. Not drinking dat water...
 
A possible solution, find out how many cores the game uses and shut down some on the 8350. Most likely you can shut down at least 2.

+1

If you are not looking to overclock then the Asus M4A99x rev. 2 or the Gigabyte 970A UD3 would be appropriate. Stay away from MSI, Foxconn, ECS and other bottom feeder motherboard manufacturers. ASRock makes some good boards as well that would be a good match. As someone else has said, you want at least a 6+2 power phase rating. 8+2 if overclocking that CPU. That's the key.
 
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Still not convinced .. For example Gigabyte make a board with a simmilar VRM 4+ 1 and same 760G chipset , who officially support the 8350 !

See here http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4305
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4305#ov


Why on earth would a manufacturer create a motherboard with a 3 year Warranty if customers knew there was a risk?

The m5a97 is another board that "supports" the 8350.


oh look... (granted I overclocked mine a bit)


http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=742241
 
I have faith it will be fine at stock , obviously I understand the forum is aimed at overclockers and overclocking this CPU on this board is a no go
 
Still not convinced .. For example Gigabyte make a board with a simmilar VRM 4+ 1 and same 760G chipset , who officially support the 8350 !

See here http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4305
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4305#ov


Why on earth would a manufacturer create a motherboard with a 3 year Warranty if customers knew there was a risk?

"Officially supports" does not preclude down-throttling under load at stock frequencies and voltages in order to protect the board's power circuitry. Since the motherboard has these protective technologies built-in then they can officially say it supports that CPU.
 
Still not convinced .. For example Gigabyte make a board with a simmilar VRM 4+ 1 and same 760G chipset , who officially support the 8350 !

See here http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=4305
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4305#ov


Why on earth would a manufacturer create a motherboard with a 3 year Warranty if customers knew there was a risk?

They got your money didn't they? Did you feel something hit you in the back of the head when you turned around to leave? That was your change.

I'm sorry you're not convinced. Just because the manufacturer makes a claim doesn't mean it's true or it will even work properly. It sucks, but that's what you're dealing with when you build computers. You can't buy a high-end CPU and drop it in a bottom-line mobo and expect it to work, it's something you'll learn here if you open your eyes to what you're being told.

Yes, this is an overclocking site but you're dealing with people who know what they are talking about even in regards to stock setups. Now, would you rather listen to some Newegg review from somebody who doesn't even know what a VRM or a MOSFET is or listen to a forum of enthusiasts who have seen this issue multiple times and know the cause down to a science?
 
If you have good PSU with low jitter you can undervolt 8350 around 0.1V without losing performance assuming your board has decent LLC to eliminate vdrop.
It is not much but will lower load on VRM around 10%

But really you will need decent board to run 8350. Where did you get the idea that mATX was a good idea?
To add to the insult there are not too many ATX boards even that are recommended for 8350.
 
There are no mATX motherboards I would recommend for the FX lineup.

Really will a FX 6300 not run well one of there boards or simmilar board?

Or maybe pop in another AMD chip that isn't power hungry.

Hmm maybe I can successfully run a FX 6300 ,Might have to return to Intel after all , seems there are very limited M-Atx options . OPr how bout a Pehnom Quad ?

Not a fan of full ATX cases - they are ugly and bulky . The current Bitfenix Prodgidy has water cooling and plenty of space left
 
OK

I have taken heed on the advice , I have found I hope a compromise in the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Rev 5.0 paired with the FX 6300 . Fans will be installed to push air over the VRM Heatsink . I am not interested in Clocking past 4.0 Ghz ( no need )
This will keep me quiet for the time being IMO

Thanks for the replies, unfortuantely we live in a world where most people care about asthetics and not to bothered about under the hood . I too fall into this category, thats why M_ATX . ATX is too cumbersome and will take up 1/3 of My desk . The Bit Fenix prodgidy Micro Case fits wonderfully onto the desk and fits in the H60 Water cooling and plenty of HDD and SSD's and Fans
 
I am confused why manufacturers do not offer more AM3+ M-atx solutions there had been many higher spec 880 boards introduced only to be replaced by lower spec 720/760 counterparts
For Instance
GIGABYTE GA-880GM-USB3
BIOSTAR A880G+

Why is that that guigabyte and other manufacturers discontinue these?

On a sidenote I have had two Intel CPU's and Two Gigabyte boards fail in the same set up twice Hence the move to AMD ( Never seen any AMD CPU fail)
 
That is called bad luck and a tiny dataset. They both have their share of failures. With respect, judging by how insistent you are on 'taking your chances' with suspect hardware in this thread - as well as looking at the mobo in your sig (no heatsinks on the thing, 4 phase), I would not be surprised if buying that low end played a role in your experience.

See what's going on here now? We are tying to help. :)
 
Yeah the world of IT is too vauge , causes soo much confusion ....

. There are only cheap Matx AM3+ boards , there's no logic at all . Usually I wipe my bank account on tech equiptment , if there was a better board I would buy ergo have brought : the Gigabyte offereing ( sadly no sata 3 mind)
 

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get the giga and keep the 8350, maybe it has a chance(this has heatsink atleast) . If it still throttles just disable a module(2 cores) on the 8350 and bam you have an 6300 !
 
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