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Dami3n

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If i rise my fsb more than 3 from the factory defaults (333 + 3 = 336) then this is what happens...
When turning computer on, it shows up the mobo screen. Then it restarts and shows it again and continues normally.
But if i go to my bios and check the "MB. Intelligent Tweaker" It says that computer failed because of overclocking and so on.
if i would continue normally to desktop, i would have normal settings in use

I tried even loading fail safe settings, change ram to 1:1 ratio, lock PCI-Frequency to 100 and so on. (did i miss something?)

Iv seen many people overclocking theyr q9450 to 3ghz or even more with default voltages, but my system fails even at this level :(
Could it be a error in Motherboard? or hardware? or just my settings?

(Multipier is low because of energy saving option, automatically rises it to 8 when needed processor for something)
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Edit: MY Graphics gard is auto overclocked to
GPU Clock ~ 780 Mhz
MEMORY Clock ~ 1090 Mhz

Edit2: Basicly any changes to fsb ****s up the stability o_O

Build:
Case: NZXT Tempest ATX Mid-Tower Case
Processor: INTEL Q9450 CORE2QUAD 2.66GHZ S775 TRAY
Gfx: CLUB 3D HD 4870 PCIE 512MB GDDR-5 2X DVI
PSU: CORSAIR PSU 620W 12CM FAN ATX EPS12V 80+
RAM: OCZ DDR2 4GB PC2-8500 REAPER HPC€
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS4
Processor Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775)
Compound used: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g)
OS: Windows Vista Ultimatum 64bit
 
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I would try turning off the speedStep stuff. I know it's supposed to be power saving options, but I would turn them off at least until you can get your rig stable where you want it.

On my MB I had to turn off SpeedStep and C1E.
 
When changing the FSB, multiplier, NB Strap / Latch settings in particular, it's normal for the BIOS to shut down the computer, and then power it back up to apply your new settings. And just because others are hitting +3.0 GHz clock speeds at default voltages w/ their quads, doesn't necessarily mean you will too. Using this template, post all of your current BIOS settings...

Code: 
[u][b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.
CPU Frequency ...........................: Mhz
[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Mhz
C.I.A. 2......................................: Disabled
[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: ps
[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b]
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: 
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............:
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] [Auto]
[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................: 
tRCD .........................................: 
tRP'...........................................:  
tRAS..........................................:  
[b]Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter][/b]
tRRD...........................................:
tWTR..........................................:
tWR............................................:
tRFC...........................................:
tRTP...........................................:
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:

[b]Channel A[/b]

[b]Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training .......................: Enabled
[b]Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO],[667Mhz],[800Mhz],[1066Mhz],[OC-1200],[OC-1333]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level.........:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level..........:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 

[b]Channel B[/b]

[b]Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training .......................: Enabled
[b]Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO],[667Mhz],[800Mhz],[1066Mhz],[OC-1200],[OC-1333]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level..............:Auto 

[b]{U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/b]{/U]
Voltage Type.………... Normal 
[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: v
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:v
[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: v
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: v
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: v
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: v
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: v
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: v
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: v
[b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
[b]Note[/b]: * refers to 45nm CPU
 
redduc900 said:
When changing the FSB, multiplier, NB Strap / Latch settings in particular, it's normal for the BIOS to shut down the computer, and then power it back up to apply your new settings. And just because others are hitting +3.0 GHz clock speeds at default voltages w/ their quads, doesn't necessarily mean you will too. Using this template, post all of your current BIOS settings...

Code: 
[u][b]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.
CPU Frequency ...........................: Mhz
[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Mhz
C.I.A. 2......................................: Disabled
[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: ps
[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b]
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: 
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............:
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] [Auto]
[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................: 
tRCD .........................................: 
tRP'...........................................:  
tRAS..........................................:  
[b]Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter][/b]
tRRD...........................................:
tWTR..........................................:
tWR............................................:
tRFC...........................................:
tRTP...........................................:
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:

[b]Channel A[/b]

[b]Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training .......................: Enabled
[b]Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO],[667Mhz],[800Mhz],[1066Mhz],[OC-1200],[OC-1333]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level.........:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level..........:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 

[b]Channel B[/b]

[b]Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training .......................: Enabled
[b]Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO],[667Mhz],[800Mhz],[1066Mhz],[OC-1200],[OC-1333]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level..............:Auto 

[b]{U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/b]{/U]
Voltage Type.………... Normal 
[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: v
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:v
[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: v
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: v
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: v
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: v
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: v
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: v
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: v
[b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
[b]Note[/b]: * refers to 45nm CPU
Click to expand...


I will, and i know that it does shutdown because of applying the new settings.
But after that when i shutdown my computer, and then finally turn it back on some day... it goes to mobo logo, then goes off, back on and then it has reseted my settings because of failed settings...

Ok then, these are my current settings, btw i just noticed your
redduc900 said:
Using this template, post all of your current BIOS settings...
Click to expand...
These settings are enough, or do you want more?
btw, where did you got this template, did you write it?
or can you print stuff out of bios?

Wut, reason could be my gfx card?
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1032760542

* Red parts are the ones i did not find from my bios
Code: 
[u][b]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:. +0.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: (2.66 Ghz 333x8)
[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................:[Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:333
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto
C.I.A. 2......................................: Disabled
[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800 mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900 mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0 ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0 ps
[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b]
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066 Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]
[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................: 5 
tRCD .........................................: 7
tRP'...........................................:  7
tRAS..........................................:  20
[b]Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter][/b]
tRRD...........................................: 4
tWTR..........................................: 4
tWR............................................: 8
tRFC...........................................: 72
tRTP...........................................: 4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 0

[b]Channel A[/b]

[b]Channel A Timings Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto 8
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto 0
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto 0
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto 0
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto 0
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto  8
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto  8
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto  7
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto  9
[COLOR="Red"]Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training .......................: Enabled
[b]Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO],[667Mhz],[800Mhz],[1066Mhz],[OC-1200],[OC-1333]


Data Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level.........:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level..........:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level...........:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
[/COLOR]
[b]Channel B[/b]

[b]Channel B Timings Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto 8
 tRD Phase0 Adjustmen...................:Auto 0
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto 0
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto 0
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto 0
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto  8
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto  8
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 7
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 9
[COLOR="Red"]Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
DDR3 Write Training .......................: Enabled
[b]Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter][/b] 
Driving Strength Profile:[AUTO],[667Mhz],[800Mhz],[1066Mhz],[OC-1200],[OC-1333]

Data Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Up Level..............:Auto 

Data Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Cmd Driving Pull-Down Level............:Auto 
Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level.............:Auto 
Clk Driving Pull-Down Level..............:Auto 
[/COLOR]
[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/b][/U]
Voltage Type.………... Normal 
[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.21250 v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.760 v
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: 0.800v
[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.100v
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........;  0.760v
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........:  0.900v
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............:  1.550v
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100v
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.800v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.900v
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.900v
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.900v
[b]{U]Advanced Settings[b]{U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
[COLOR="Red"]C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled][/COLOR]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]
[b]Note[/b]: * refers to 45nm CPU
 
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Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo] --> set to standard
System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto ---> set to 2x
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto ---> set to 100
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.21250 v --> set to 1.3v
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.800v --> do you need 2.2v for 1066?

It could also be a memory fault. If the above settings don't work, then try using just one stick of ram. If that fails, swap the sticks. If both fail it could still be a ram issue, try some new memory sticks.
 
orion456 said:
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo] --> set to standard
System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto ---> set to 2x
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto ---> set to 100
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.21250 v --> set to 1.3v
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.800v --> do you need 2.2v for 1066?

It could also be a memory fault. If the above settings don't work, then try using just one stick of ram. If that fails, swap the sticks. If both fail it could still be a ram issue, try some new memory sticks.
Click to expand...

Allright, il try these settings.
My memory sticks are new, this computer is about 2 or 3 months old, i build it myself by buying all new pieces for it :)
 
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