Hello everyone this is my first post and my first attempt at water cooling.
I spent months doing research on water cooling and researching the parts. However, I have obviously overlooked some details as I feel that the loops is not running as it should be.
First off this is the precursor to the final build which will be a PC table. So I’d like to work out the bugs before I’ve committed to a loop under a 38” x 63” sheet of tempered glass. Adjustments will be a huge undertaking then.
I’ll post 3 lists of parts; First build, current state and what I have and/or plan for the final build. I figure this way all the information will be out there to get the best advise.
First build parts list.
Case: Thermaltake Tower 900 Snow Edition
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002975
Motherboard/CPU block: ASUS ROG Maximus IX Extreme LGA1151
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-EXTREME/
GPU/ SLI: Dual ASUS ROG Poseidon GeForce® GTX 1080 TI 11GB Platinum Edition
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/ROG-POSEIDON-GTX1080TI-P11G-GAMING/
Radiator #1: Thermaltake Pacific RL420 Radiator
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002648
Radiator #2: Thermaltake Pacific RL560 Radiator
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002649
Reservoir x2: Aqualis XT 450 ml with nano coating
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=2917
Pump x2: Aquastream ULTIMATE
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3379
Fan controller: Aquaero 6 XT
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3737
Also included in the loop with: Passive heatsink and waterblock
heat sink: https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3175
Waterblock: https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=2671
Tubing: PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Flexible Tubing - 3/8in.ID x 5/8in.OD
https://www.primochill.com/products...-8in-od-retail-bundle-10ft-pack-crystal-clear
Fittings: Monsoon G1/4" to 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD Chain Gun Compression Fitting
http://www.performance-pcs.com/mons...-fittings-3-8-x-5-8-4-pack-white.html#Details
The ones that I received do not have the white barb but a silver colored barb. I would assume that this would still be the same marine grade brass as stated. I also bought a 4 pack of red fittings that came with the same barb, not the colored ones that all the pictures seem to show matching the color of the compression fittings.
Misc fitting adaptors:
90 degree adapter
Bitspower G 1/4" Deep Blood Red Rotary 90 Degree IG 1/4" Adapter
http://www.performance-pcs.com/bitspower-g-1-4-deep-blood-red-rotary-90-degree-ig-1-4-adapter.html
45 degree adaptors:
Enzotech G1/4" 45° Rotary Fitting, Chrome
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B0YC4GM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Fitting extension:
Swiftech G1/4" 15mm Male to Female Lok-Seal Fitting
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V2RPIJI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Temperature sensors: 8x Temperature sensor internal/external thread G1/4
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=2293
I started to assemble the loop on January 17th when the last of the parts arrived. It wasn’t to terribly difficult. Flushing the rads and blocks, assembly, leak test, 3 hours running with the system prep fluid that came with the primochill tubing and then finally flushing the prep fluid and adding the final fill with the biocide included with the tubing. The loop direction went:
Res 1>Pump1>Aquero>CPU>GPU1>GPU2>Res2>Pump2>Rad1>Rad2
The system ran great, no temp issues at all. Fans rarely ran at a noticeable speed. The pumps registered a flow rate of 21/Lph. This was a huge drop from the 100+/Lph they would register before connected to the full loop. Reducing the waterfall effect of the reservoirs to a barely noticeable dribble. The rate still seemed to be within an acceptable range so I did not delve further into that.
About 3 week in I noticed that the water in the reservoirs and tubing was starting to cloud up. I left it alone and watched it closely while looking up possible reason for the cloudy water. About a week later I noticed that Res2 was almost empty and had leaked. Water pooled up underneath and under the case. No issues with components as the way this case is designed all the electronic parts are near the top.
I immediately shut down and unplugged. Inspecting the fittings there was no obvious signs of leakage there. Seems that Res2 leaked at the cylinder to base connection. While removing Res2 I drained the system, reconfigured the loop direction and placed the pumps inline. New flow pattern:
Res1>Pump1>Pump2>Aquero>CPU>GPU1>GPU2>Rad1>Rad2
The flow rate was still about the same. The visiale flow meter in the monoblock no longer spins.
Issues I noticed, the tubing had white powdery substance on the inside. I cut a piece open, it was dry and powdery. No sludge. Some of the fitting barbs had a white/pinkish gooey substance within. I had cleaned off as much as I could without tearing the blocks open. I failed to take pictures of the fitting then.
Now 3-4 weeks later I had the cloudy water issue again. I drained the system and removed the pumps, Res1, 3 of 4 45 degree fitting adaptors, 15mm fitting extensions and Aquero.
New parts added are;
Pump/res combo: Enermax NEOChanger 400ml RGB LED Reservoir and Pump
http://www.enermax.com/home.php?fn=eng/product_a1_1_1&lv0=109&lv1=112&no=357
Flow meter: Bykski Metal Water(Liquid) Cooling Flow Meter / indicator
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MY7M4OF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Neither flow indicator moves after installing into the loop. The water is flowing but at very slow rate. No meters hooked up so I can’t give an estimated Lph.
The system was flushed with system prep for 48 hours then drained and refilled with biocide added and a silver kill coil placed into the loop.
24 hours after the refill and bleeding an air bubble showed up at the outflow of GPU2. The flow rate is not strong enough to put the bubble down through the line, it just sits there, laughing at me.
Visual inspection of the fittings I feel are worse than before. The gooey sludge was no longer there however the fittings and plugs on the GPUs, and all temperature sensors now had blueish white coloring with spots. This look to me as corrosion. I will upload pictures later. The 45 degree adapters all have a white powdery coating on the inside. It does not come off very well when wiping it with Qtips after it has dried. The barbs on the compression fitting on the GPUs have the same coloring/coating as the temp sensors. No other barbs had any noticeable issues other than a light white powder coating the wiped away with ease.
So my question is what is making the water cloudy? Is this normal, a plasticiser issue, mixed metal issue or poor biocide/ additive? I have not found definitive information as to what the Asus blocks are made out of but I am committed to these parts for the final build as they are to costly to replace. Unless I can sell them and buy something else later on.
The final build includes all the same parts, pump and reservoirs aside, with the exception of the Radiators. The final build will utilize two 840mm full copper/copper finned radiators instead of the 420 and 560 rads.
Radiators x2: Airplex modularity system 840 mm
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3364
So know for sure how much copper will be within the final loop what are my options with the current unknown pre built blocks?
I spent months doing research on water cooling and researching the parts. However, I have obviously overlooked some details as I feel that the loops is not running as it should be.
First off this is the precursor to the final build which will be a PC table. So I’d like to work out the bugs before I’ve committed to a loop under a 38” x 63” sheet of tempered glass. Adjustments will be a huge undertaking then.
I’ll post 3 lists of parts; First build, current state and what I have and/or plan for the final build. I figure this way all the information will be out there to get the best advise.
First build parts list.
Case: Thermaltake Tower 900 Snow Edition
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002975
Motherboard/CPU block: ASUS ROG Maximus IX Extreme LGA1151
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-EXTREME/
GPU/ SLI: Dual ASUS ROG Poseidon GeForce® GTX 1080 TI 11GB Platinum Edition
https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/ROG-POSEIDON-GTX1080TI-P11G-GAMING/
Radiator #1: Thermaltake Pacific RL420 Radiator
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002648
Radiator #2: Thermaltake Pacific RL560 Radiator
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002649
Reservoir x2: Aqualis XT 450 ml with nano coating
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=2917
Pump x2: Aquastream ULTIMATE
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3379
Fan controller: Aquaero 6 XT
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3737
Also included in the loop with: Passive heatsink and waterblock
heat sink: https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3175
Waterblock: https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=2671
Tubing: PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Flexible Tubing - 3/8in.ID x 5/8in.OD
https://www.primochill.com/products...-8in-od-retail-bundle-10ft-pack-crystal-clear
Fittings: Monsoon G1/4" to 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD Chain Gun Compression Fitting
http://www.performance-pcs.com/mons...-fittings-3-8-x-5-8-4-pack-white.html#Details
The ones that I received do not have the white barb but a silver colored barb. I would assume that this would still be the same marine grade brass as stated. I also bought a 4 pack of red fittings that came with the same barb, not the colored ones that all the pictures seem to show matching the color of the compression fittings.
Misc fitting adaptors:
90 degree adapter
Bitspower G 1/4" Deep Blood Red Rotary 90 Degree IG 1/4" Adapter
http://www.performance-pcs.com/bitspower-g-1-4-deep-blood-red-rotary-90-degree-ig-1-4-adapter.html
45 degree adaptors:
Enzotech G1/4" 45° Rotary Fitting, Chrome
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B0YC4GM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Fitting extension:
Swiftech G1/4" 15mm Male to Female Lok-Seal Fitting
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V2RPIJI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Temperature sensors: 8x Temperature sensor internal/external thread G1/4
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=2293
I started to assemble the loop on January 17th when the last of the parts arrived. It wasn’t to terribly difficult. Flushing the rads and blocks, assembly, leak test, 3 hours running with the system prep fluid that came with the primochill tubing and then finally flushing the prep fluid and adding the final fill with the biocide included with the tubing. The loop direction went:
Res 1>Pump1>Aquero>CPU>GPU1>GPU2>Res2>Pump2>Rad1>Rad2
The system ran great, no temp issues at all. Fans rarely ran at a noticeable speed. The pumps registered a flow rate of 21/Lph. This was a huge drop from the 100+/Lph they would register before connected to the full loop. Reducing the waterfall effect of the reservoirs to a barely noticeable dribble. The rate still seemed to be within an acceptable range so I did not delve further into that.
About 3 week in I noticed that the water in the reservoirs and tubing was starting to cloud up. I left it alone and watched it closely while looking up possible reason for the cloudy water. About a week later I noticed that Res2 was almost empty and had leaked. Water pooled up underneath and under the case. No issues with components as the way this case is designed all the electronic parts are near the top.
I immediately shut down and unplugged. Inspecting the fittings there was no obvious signs of leakage there. Seems that Res2 leaked at the cylinder to base connection. While removing Res2 I drained the system, reconfigured the loop direction and placed the pumps inline. New flow pattern:
Res1>Pump1>Pump2>Aquero>CPU>GPU1>GPU2>Rad1>Rad2
The flow rate was still about the same. The visiale flow meter in the monoblock no longer spins.
Issues I noticed, the tubing had white powdery substance on the inside. I cut a piece open, it was dry and powdery. No sludge. Some of the fitting barbs had a white/pinkish gooey substance within. I had cleaned off as much as I could without tearing the blocks open. I failed to take pictures of the fitting then.
Now 3-4 weeks later I had the cloudy water issue again. I drained the system and removed the pumps, Res1, 3 of 4 45 degree fitting adaptors, 15mm fitting extensions and Aquero.
New parts added are;
Pump/res combo: Enermax NEOChanger 400ml RGB LED Reservoir and Pump
http://www.enermax.com/home.php?fn=eng/product_a1_1_1&lv0=109&lv1=112&no=357
Flow meter: Bykski Metal Water(Liquid) Cooling Flow Meter / indicator
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MY7M4OF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Neither flow indicator moves after installing into the loop. The water is flowing but at very slow rate. No meters hooked up so I can’t give an estimated Lph.
The system was flushed with system prep for 48 hours then drained and refilled with biocide added and a silver kill coil placed into the loop.
24 hours after the refill and bleeding an air bubble showed up at the outflow of GPU2. The flow rate is not strong enough to put the bubble down through the line, it just sits there, laughing at me.
Visual inspection of the fittings I feel are worse than before. The gooey sludge was no longer there however the fittings and plugs on the GPUs, and all temperature sensors now had blueish white coloring with spots. This look to me as corrosion. I will upload pictures later. The 45 degree adapters all have a white powdery coating on the inside. It does not come off very well when wiping it with Qtips after it has dried. The barbs on the compression fitting on the GPUs have the same coloring/coating as the temp sensors. No other barbs had any noticeable issues other than a light white powder coating the wiped away with ease.
So my question is what is making the water cloudy? Is this normal, a plasticiser issue, mixed metal issue or poor biocide/ additive? I have not found definitive information as to what the Asus blocks are made out of but I am committed to these parts for the final build as they are to costly to replace. Unless I can sell them and buy something else later on.
The final build includes all the same parts, pump and reservoirs aside, with the exception of the Radiators. The final build will utilize two 840mm full copper/copper finned radiators instead of the 420 and 560 rads.
Radiators x2: Airplex modularity system 840 mm
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3364
So know for sure how much copper will be within the final loop what are my options with the current unknown pre built blocks?
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