TICK V TOCK

[trueblack]

This is about your preference to put your money where.


as you know, recent Intel CPU tech comes in Tick-tocks, a tick where there's a tech jump, and a die shrink using the same tech.

example is SB being a Tock, and IvyBridge being the Tick.

where do you prefer to invest your money into?

I prefer the Tick over the Tock refresh

 

[EarthDog]

So do tell, since you started the thread, what is your reason for preferring the 'tick'?

I do not have a preference. New architecture on a mature process usually shows some decent improvements, however a die shrink and update can also show improvements as well. Either way, I'm at a point where upgrading every 1.5 years isn't a problem so, no preference.

 

[bluezero5]

as far as my signature shows otherwisr. i prefer the tock. as the tick sometimes comes with new prpblems and issues, and through the years i found the tick refresh to be a better buy.

i m now preping for IBe!

 

[trueblack]

Surprised so few commented, maybe cause most doesn't know the tick v. tock tech program intel has.

I prefer investing in the Tick, cause of exactly the opposite reason of Bluezero5, I like going into new tech, it is the unknown and the crazy issues that makes it more fun for me. IvyBridge is boring for me, super boring in fact. However when SB came out there was lots of excitement around it, and that to me is worth more than money can buy.

Haswell-E will give DDR4, new chipset, lots of unknown. I rather be the explorer than let it be explored, then join in when the verdict is already made.

 

[bmwbaxter]

I don't have a preference, I usually update as money allows.

I try to sell my old stuff so I have been updating every gen lately.

 

[trueblack]

I don't have a preference, I usually update as money allows.

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that too. I am guilty for that as well.

I however rarely sell my old system, I usually just pass it along some chick I am into, so she will have to invite me over to fix it whenever something happens. Trust me, it works. (just remove the porn from the HD)

 

[bmwbaxter]

Marriage puts and end to that. Especially when she is into Mac's

 

[trueblack]

Marriage puts and end to that. Especially when she is into Mac's

a moment for our brother here.

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amen.

 

[ChanceCoats123]

I don't have any preference either. I see the merits of both. By going with a tock (or even waiting a little bit later after the tick's come out), you can avoid issues like the rev.2 P67 problems with failing Sata ports.

However, running with the tick's you see a nice performance increase and get to try out the latest components.

 

[xhacker]

Having owned a tick and currently own a tock (have had 4770k for about 1 week). The tocks are hotter and harder to overclock. After 1 week I de-lidded my tock because it ran so hot. You would also think with some of the vrms on the tock the motherboard might be cooler, no so. The MVIE gets to 35C easy. So at this point its to early to tell which I prefer the best. But for now I'm giving the edge to the tick.

 

[freeagent]

Im still on first gent i7 and fairly content.. But I wouldn't mind upgrading to haswell..

 

[bmwbaxter]

I don't think the TIM was the fault of ivy being a tock. More a lack of pressure from AMD.

 

[ChanceCoats123]

Having owned a tick and currently own a tock (have had 4770k for about 1 week). The tocks are hotter and harder to overclock. After 1 week I de-lidded my tock because it ran so hot. You would also think with some of the vrms on the tock the motherboard might be cooler, no so. The MVIE gets to 35C easy. So at this point its to early to tell which I prefer the best. But for now I'm giving the edge to the tick.

It's a little unfair to say ALL of the tocks run hot. This generation of tocks run hotter most likely because there is power supply circuitry on the die of the cpu instead of solely on the board.

One reason that the boards might be running hotter, is because they have fewer supply components (chokes, inductors, mosfets). They don't need to have as many since the final supply and ripple suppression is handled by the chip itself.

 

[sobe]

I was under the impression from the Intel roadmaps that Sandy Bridge was a tock and Ivy was a tick.

 

[awktane]

Whenever new tech is released that meets/exceeds my requirements I upgrade. To be fair though part of the reason I'm going a little crazy on my next build is to slow this trend. I tend to upgrade far more when everything is on stock cooling than when I've got everything setup nicely on water.

 

[glussier]

I was under the impression from the Intel roadmaps that Sandy Bridge was a tock and Ivy was a tick.

A tich is a die shrink, so Ivybridge was a tick and Haswell is a Tock.

I think that because the Future is in thin and light devices, Intel is putting most of their r&d money into increasing performance/watt and igpu. I also think, that for the next few years we won't see much improvement in ipc. Large performance increase will come with an increase in core count, so will benefit mostly workstations and servers. With AMD supplying cpus for both the PS/4 and Xbox One, we might start seeing more benefit in having a large number of cpu cores in our computers.

 

[I.M.O.G.]

A tich is a die shrink, so Ivybridge was a tick and Haswell is a Tock.

This is correct. First post had it backwards.

As for my preference, it depends on the execution, regardless of tick or tock. Right now, Haswell has cool tweakability, but it isn't looking so great compared to Ivy clocks so it could be considered a bit of a trade off for overclockers... If most people can get a few hundred mhz more out of Ivy, its a good possibility they can get better performance less expensively by staying with Ivy.

 

[trueblack]

yes, die shrink is tick, then tock after. I reversed it. -bonk self-

new tech start with a new die, then pushes it further.

 

[Hippogriff]

(just remove the porn from the HD)

Porn on the HDD is so 2003

 

[trueblack]

Porn on the HDD is so 2003

hide that thumb drive then!! haha