winchester 3000, results

[Tyranos]

Well, kind of disappointing. I have a feeling its either my ram and/or my mobo's pci/agp lock thats holding it back. 5 more mhz on the HTT and it starts crashing in games, and eventually windows. Overall the system performs better than my XP, though the XPdlt3c could reach up to 2.6ghz. Oh well.

Output from cpu-z.

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CPU-Z version 1.27.2
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CPUID Output
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Number of CPUs 1
APIC ID 0
Name AMD Athlon 64 3000+
Code name Winchester
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
Family/Model/Stepping FF0
Extended Family/Model F/1F
Brand ID 4
Package Socket 939
Core Stepping DH8-D0
Technology 0.09µ
Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, x86-64
Clock Speed 2299.7 MHz
Clock multiplier x9.0
HTT Bus Frequency 255.5 MHz
P-Rating 3000+
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 2299.7 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 128 bits




Chipset
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Northbridge VIA K8T800 Pro rev. 0
Southbridge VIA VT8237 rev. 0
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Revision 3.0
AGP Transfert Rate 8x
AGP SBA supported, enabled
AGP Aperture 128 MBytes
Memory Type DDR
Memory Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Frequency 209.1 MHz (CPU/11)
CAS# 2.0
RAS# to CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 9
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 11
DRAM Idle Timer 16


Memory SPD
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DIMM #1

General
Memory type DDR-SDRAM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number CMX512-3200C2
Manufacturing date Week 00/Year 00

Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no

Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 166 200
CAS# 2.5 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay 4 4
RAS# Precharge 4 4
TRAS# 8 9


DIMM #2

General
Memory type DDR-SDRAM
Manufacturer (ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000)
Size 512 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3500 (217 MHz)
Part number K
Serial number 07FFFFFF
Manufacturing date Week 19/Year 03

Attributes
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no

Timings table
Frequency (MHz) 200 217
CAS# 2.0 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay 3 4
RAS# Precharge 3 4
TRAS# 8 9





DMI
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DMI BIOS
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BIOS #1
vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
version 6.00 PG
date 01/19/2005


DMI System Information
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System #1
manufacturer unknown
product unknown
version unknown
serial unknown
UUID 00000000-00000000-00000050-8DD145A9


DMI Baseboard
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Baseboard #1
vendor http://www.abit.com.tw/
model AV8 (VIA K8T800P-8237)
revision 1.x
serial unknown


DMI System Enclosure
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System enclosure #1
manufacturer unknown
chassis type Desktop
chassis serial unknown


DMI Processor
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CPU #1
manufacturer AMD
model AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
clock speed 2304.0MHz
FSB speed 256.0MHz
multiplier 9.0x


DMI Memory Controller
---------------------
Memory Controller #1
correction 64-bit ECC
Max module size 4096MBytes


DMI Memory Module
-----------------
Memory Module #1
designation A0
size 512MBytes (double bank)
Memory Module #2
designation A1
size 512MBytes (double bank)
Memory Module #3
designation A2
Memory Module #4
designation A3


DMI Port Connector
------------------
Port #1
designation PRIMARY IDE (internal)
connector On Board IDE
Port #2
designation SECONDARY IDE (internal)
connector On Board IDE
Port #3
designation FDD (internal)
port type 8251 FIFO Compatible
connector On Board Floppy
Port #4
designation COM1 (internal)
port type Serial Port 16450
connector 9 Pin Dual Inline (pin 10 cut)
connector DB-9 male
Port #5
designation LPT1 (internal)
port type Parallel Port ECP/EPP
connector DB-25 female
connector DB-25 female
Port #6
designation Keyboard (internal)
port type Keyboard Port
connector PS/2
connector PS/2
Port #7
designation PS/2 Mouse (internal)
port type Mouse Port
connector PS/2
connector PS/2
Port #8
designation USB0 (external)
port type USB


DMI Extension Slot
------------------
Slot #1
designation PCI0
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #2
designation PCI1
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #3
designation PCI2
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #4
designation PCI3
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated yes
Slot #5
designation PCI4
type PCI
width 32 bits
populated no
Slot #6
designation AGP
type AGP
width 32 bits
populated yes


DMI Physical Memory Array
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Physical Memory Array #1
location Motherboard
usage System Memory
correction None
max capacity 16384MBytes
max# of devices 4


DMI Memory Device
-----------------
Memory Device #1
designation A0
format DIMM
type unknown
size 512MBytes
Memory Device #2
designation A1
format DIMM
type unknown
size 512MBytes
Memory Device #3
designation A2
format DIMM
type unknown
Memory Device #4
designation A3
format DIMM
type unknown


Software
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Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

 

[gvblake22]

Its those damn CBBID's!
Just keep tweaking and give it some time and mybe you'll get another few mhz out of it

 

[Elif Tymes]

Danggg, bummer man . It could very well be you haven't increased your VCore, try putting your VCore @ 1.5 and you should be able to hit 2.4

 

[Tyranos]

I've tried vcore settings up to 1.65. Dimm to 2.85, htt to max, nb to max. The only voltage I havent touched is the sb.

 

[Fireball_dbz]

i think you ought to increase your v core. maybe you'll get more out of it...

 

[gvblake22]

Are you sure the PCI bus is locked? I know there have been issues with the VIA chipsets and the PCI lock. I've heard setting it at 67 will sometimes help it to lock.

 

[carlcote]

make sure your bios is up to date as well

 

[Tyranos]

Bios is updated, etc etc. At this htt the corsair is running at the edges of what it's capable of anyway (old old xms v1.1) and what the AV8 rev 1.1 is capable of as well. Hopefully they'll resolve the weak agp/pci lock in a future bios update if it isnt a hardware problem.

 

[Tyranos]

THOUGH, my computer passed memtest at 218mhz mem speed 7x times over a period of 18 or so hours with no errors. So... eh.

 

[hitechjb1]

Memtest only stresses memory and uses CPU lightly, so memtest passing frequency is higher than that for a system passing SuperPI 32M, 3dmark 01/03/05, Prime95 (small FFT) stressing CPU and cache, Prime95 (Blend) heavily stressing CPU+memory+chipset+system bus, ...


This post discusses the different levels of stability testing and their order of difficulty.

Stability testing using memtest, SuperPI (32M) and Prime95

 

[Tyranos]

It also passed superpi 32m multiple times, prime small for 8+ hours, 3dmark 2k1 all the time. 3dMark 05 would crash about every other time (freeze or crash to desktop), Half Life 2 would crash to desktop or freeze after a few minutes, Prime Blend test would randomly crash.

Memtest only stresses memory and uses CPU lightly, so memtest passing frequency is higher than that for a system passing SuperPI 32M, 3dmark 01/03/05, Prime95 (small FFT) stressing CPU and cache, Prime95 (Blend) heavily stressing CPU+memory+chipset+system bus, ...


This post discusses the different levels of stability testing and their order of difficulty.

Stability testing using memtest, SuperPI (32M) and Prime95

 

[hitechjb1]

It looks like it is related to memory/controller, chipset, system bus.

Your first post is hard to read about your system spec and frequencies.

Are you mixing different types of memory, Corsair and Kingston, from parsing the memory SPD of your first post? Would that be a problem?

Try to run them one at a time.

 

[Tyranos]

Yes corsair xmspc3200 and kingston hyperX pc3500. I've tried to run each individually. Just the Kingston would let it go ~5mhz higher on HTT.

 

[hitechjb1]

I can't find how your memory is running from your first post (screen shots would be easier to read).

Those memory modules may be topping out at around 220 MHz using 2.x V.

Have you tried running the memory and HTT at a ratio, say 5:6.

If CPU_multiplier = x9 (for 3000+)
memory_frequency = CPU_frequency / 11

so if memory_frequency ~ 210 - 220 MHz
CPU can go to around 2320 - 2420 MHz

 

[Tyranos]

For memory timings I've used 2 3 3 10 to 3 5 5 12 1t and 2t. I currently run it at 2 4 4 9 1t, trc 11, dram idle 16 at 209.1mhz (209.1x2 ddr). As for htt and memory ratio I use ddr333 right now (cpu/11) but have tried as low as ddr200 with the same results. I run 2.7 to 2.85v on memory as well.

I run 4x LDT now, and have tried 2x and 3x. 3x malfunctions (known issue with many abit av8 pros). 2x lets me get a higher HTT (~280) but it becomes very unstable, even if I drop memory to ddr266.