First off, hello everyone. I'm new to these forums and came here as I need some help figuring this out. I will be basically copying and pasting everything from a thread on a different forum so if the formatting is off some or if any info is left out I'll get that put in there right away.
Since I'm doing the copy/paste thing from another forum it will go in order from oldest to newest post. This starts about 2 weeks ago.
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Loop Order: Rad --> CPU --> Res --> Pump --> Rad
Block: Swiftech Apogee HD
Radiator: XSPC EX240
Flow: Good (Have a spin bay res and the flow meter is spinning hard/fast)
CPU: i7 860 @ 4.0GHz 1.36v
Initial Mount w/Tuniq TX-3
Idle: 36-32-34-34
Load: 76-77-78-80
2nd Mount w/PK-1
Idle: 36-32-35-34
Load: 80-74-72-78
The loop has been up and running in the current case since Wednesday. Prior to that it has been up and running in a different case for 2 weeks. When it was in it's other case the temps were worse but I expect that since I had to lay the rad on top of the case. Also in the other case I only had the chip at 3.8GHz.
I have it currently setup as an exhaust instead of an intake. I know that better temps are achieved as an intake but from my searching around and reading it should only effect the temps by a few degrees.
Currently I only have the GTX 460 in the case, so there really isn't much heat in the case right now.
More Info:
Tubing size is 3/8" ID 5/8" OD
Fan setup is 120mm front intake, 140mm bottom intake, 120mm back exhaust, 2x140mm top exhaust.
Update #1
I haven't remounted yet, I did just try a push/pull setup as exhaust and it did bring the temps down a little bit. Not as much as I would have expected though, I'm getting similar temps to when I had my H50 which isn't making me all that happy.
PnP Temps
Idle: 36-32-34-33
Load: 76-70-69-77
Update #2
Walked away from the PC to go watch a movie and came back to lower idle temps so decided to test load temps (see below). While these are getting lower they are still in line with the H50 I ran. I was hoping to see load temps with a 1.36v in the 50s as I wanted to push close to v1.4v to try to get my chip up to 4.5GHz.
Idle: 33-28-31-30
Load: 72-69-68-74
The next step I'm going to take is to try a pull as intake on the top. If I want to try a push as intake I'd have to drain the entire loop, which I will do if the pull doesn't work. This will have to be done at a later time I'm afraid. I knew the push as exhaust wasn't the best setup but I never thought I'd be seeing these temps. Really disappointed thus far.
Update #3
I remounted my CPU and used Indigo Xtreme. At stock clocks my temps are as follows (1.056v)
Idle: 30-23-27-24
Load: 54-46-49-47
For stock voltage, does that seem high to anyone else?
Update #4
Alright, spent 7 hours on Saturday night redoing my loop. I messed up the install of the Indigo Xtreme (which may be why my temps from Update #3 are high on load for stock voltage?). After doing some googling I read that on this install that while it says that the pump must not be connected, that water has to be present in the loop - so basically if you're doing a new loop install (which is what I did) you need to run your loop and THEN unplug the pump and THEN run the burn in phase. I have one install of this left and I'm unsure of if I want to use it right away or not.
Changed up the loop order a bit as from my reading around on a single CPU loop order doesn't matter all that much as long as the rad is before the block. Now running pump --> res --> rad --> block --> then back to pump
Here is how my setup now looks - I am very pleased with the looks. However...I'm thinking of mounting that 120mm rad to the bottom fan there. It's a 140mm ran but I could put a 120mm fan there or just get another 140-120 adapter. I'm just not sure if there is enough room down there for a rad...I mean it does look kinda tight fit on that bottom fan.
Update #5
Came home for lunch to remount the water block because I messed up the install of the Indigo Xtreme and this is really starting to bother me. This time around I used Shin Etsu thermal compound because I only have one install left of the Indigo and I wanted to test things out a bit first.
Also this time around I didn't crank down the water block as tight as I have in all previous mountings thinking that maybe I was over tightening the block and that was causing my poor temps.
Idle: 32-27-29-27
Load: 52-48-48-50
So comparing the above temps with Update #3 in my previous post, idle temps were high across the board in this mounting. Load temps were about the same (some cores were lower a couple of degrees while other cores were higher a couple of degrees).
Keep in mind my i7 860 is still at stock settings.
Are my expectations unrealistic? I was hoping for mid 40s load on stock settings and then with my OC mid 60s load.
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So that's it on the copy/paste bit.
The rad was flushed prior to install with distilled water, flow is rockin as I have a flow meter on my res and it's a white blur. I am a first time water cooler but have been building systems for 6ish years now so it's not the first time I have mounted a heat sink before. Since the flow is good, and because they're new parts and they were flushed prior to use I don't think there is any gunk build up any where.
Prior to this I was running an H50 PnP setup with my chip at 3.8GHz @1.34v and getting high 70s on load across all cores. I upgraded to this setup as I wanted to cross 4.0GHz and throw 1.4v at my chip to see what it could do.
Since I'm doing the copy/paste thing from another forum it will go in order from oldest to newest post. This starts about 2 weeks ago.
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Loop Order: Rad --> CPU --> Res --> Pump --> Rad
Block: Swiftech Apogee HD
Radiator: XSPC EX240
Flow: Good (Have a spin bay res and the flow meter is spinning hard/fast)
CPU: i7 860 @ 4.0GHz 1.36v
Initial Mount w/Tuniq TX-3
Idle: 36-32-34-34
Load: 76-77-78-80
2nd Mount w/PK-1
Idle: 36-32-35-34
Load: 80-74-72-78
The loop has been up and running in the current case since Wednesday. Prior to that it has been up and running in a different case for 2 weeks. When it was in it's other case the temps were worse but I expect that since I had to lay the rad on top of the case. Also in the other case I only had the chip at 3.8GHz.
I have it currently setup as an exhaust instead of an intake. I know that better temps are achieved as an intake but from my searching around and reading it should only effect the temps by a few degrees.
Currently I only have the GTX 460 in the case, so there really isn't much heat in the case right now.
More Info:
Tubing size is 3/8" ID 5/8" OD
Fan setup is 120mm front intake, 140mm bottom intake, 120mm back exhaust, 2x140mm top exhaust.
Update #1
I haven't remounted yet, I did just try a push/pull setup as exhaust and it did bring the temps down a little bit. Not as much as I would have expected though, I'm getting similar temps to when I had my H50 which isn't making me all that happy.
PnP Temps
Idle: 36-32-34-33
Load: 76-70-69-77
Update #2
Walked away from the PC to go watch a movie and came back to lower idle temps so decided to test load temps (see below). While these are getting lower they are still in line with the H50 I ran. I was hoping to see load temps with a 1.36v in the 50s as I wanted to push close to v1.4v to try to get my chip up to 4.5GHz.
Idle: 33-28-31-30
Load: 72-69-68-74
The next step I'm going to take is to try a pull as intake on the top. If I want to try a push as intake I'd have to drain the entire loop, which I will do if the pull doesn't work. This will have to be done at a later time I'm afraid. I knew the push as exhaust wasn't the best setup but I never thought I'd be seeing these temps. Really disappointed thus far.
Update #3
I remounted my CPU and used Indigo Xtreme. At stock clocks my temps are as follows (1.056v)
Idle: 30-23-27-24
Load: 54-46-49-47
For stock voltage, does that seem high to anyone else?
Update #4
Alright, spent 7 hours on Saturday night redoing my loop. I messed up the install of the Indigo Xtreme (which may be why my temps from Update #3 are high on load for stock voltage?). After doing some googling I read that on this install that while it says that the pump must not be connected, that water has to be present in the loop - so basically if you're doing a new loop install (which is what I did) you need to run your loop and THEN unplug the pump and THEN run the burn in phase. I have one install of this left and I'm unsure of if I want to use it right away or not.
Changed up the loop order a bit as from my reading around on a single CPU loop order doesn't matter all that much as long as the rad is before the block. Now running pump --> res --> rad --> block --> then back to pump
Here is how my setup now looks - I am very pleased with the looks. However...I'm thinking of mounting that 120mm rad to the bottom fan there. It's a 140mm ran but I could put a 120mm fan there or just get another 140-120 adapter. I'm just not sure if there is enough room down there for a rad...I mean it does look kinda tight fit on that bottom fan.
Update #5
Came home for lunch to remount the water block because I messed up the install of the Indigo Xtreme and this is really starting to bother me. This time around I used Shin Etsu thermal compound because I only have one install left of the Indigo and I wanted to test things out a bit first.
Also this time around I didn't crank down the water block as tight as I have in all previous mountings thinking that maybe I was over tightening the block and that was causing my poor temps.
Idle: 32-27-29-27
Load: 52-48-48-50
So comparing the above temps with Update #3 in my previous post, idle temps were high across the board in this mounting. Load temps were about the same (some cores were lower a couple of degrees while other cores were higher a couple of degrees).
Keep in mind my i7 860 is still at stock settings.
Are my expectations unrealistic? I was hoping for mid 40s load on stock settings and then with my OC mid 60s load.
---
So that's it on the copy/paste bit.
The rad was flushed prior to install with distilled water, flow is rockin as I have a flow meter on my res and it's a white blur. I am a first time water cooler but have been building systems for 6ish years now so it's not the first time I have mounted a heat sink before. Since the flow is good, and because they're new parts and they were flushed prior to use I don't think there is any gunk build up any where.
Prior to this I was running an H50 PnP setup with my chip at 3.8GHz @1.34v and getting high 70s on load across all cores. I upgraded to this setup as I wanted to cross 4.0GHz and throw 1.4v at my chip to see what it could do.
