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Ideas for keeping dust from entering case
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I'm going to chime in here. I agree with ED that you should follow a flow pattern. I like going from the bottom up and the front to back. It's not just shoving air into the case but the flow of air that removes the heat.
In terms of keeping dust out of your computer: 1) filters will do that but you must maintain them. Clean them regularly. I too, like ED, clean mine about twice a year. It's a good plan. Or 2) work on removing dust from your environment. I use MERV 13 filters on my furnace which does a decent job. The more dust my furnace filter collects, the less my computer collects.
I too was going to suggest nylons. I've never used them myself but this is a long standing practice and works a treat to my knowledge.
In terms of the nylons restricting airflow, it will, however, you seem to have more than enough going on. What you gain in filtering will NOT be offset by restricted air flow as long as you clean your filters as needed.
@Niku-Sama filter screens. I like them a lot. Looking to see if I could use them myself. Thank you.
In terms of keeping dust out of your computer: 1) filters will do that but you must maintain them. Clean them regularly. I too, like ED, clean mine about twice a year. It's a good plan. Or 2) work on removing dust from your environment. I use MERV 13 filters on my furnace which does a decent job. The more dust my furnace filter collects, the less my computer collects.
I too was going to suggest nylons. I've never used them myself but this is a long standing practice and works a treat to my knowledge.
In terms of the nylons restricting airflow, it will, however, you seem to have more than enough going on. What you gain in filtering will NOT be offset by restricted air flow as long as you clean your filters as needed.
@Niku-Sama filter screens. I like them a lot. Looking to see if I could use them myself. Thank you.
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Man, that seems like a lot of regular maintenance, and having to power down the system frequently to clean it.
I suppose I'm a bit lazy in that regard, and need my rig running 24/7/365 where cleaning filters & air dusting is only done every 6 months to a year when I do shut it down, do hardware upgrades / repairs, etc.
Also, if you're someone who builds a new rig often or when the latest & greatest is released, dust isn't much of any major concern.
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Lots of things, but I like to keep games loaded so when I do step away or wake up in the morning, I don't have to cold boot and reload everything, so it's about not wasting time or being delayed, having immediate access.
I'm sure there are lots of computers that never do get shut down and run 24/7/365.
It's the sign of a truly "TUF" system.
So, not only is your PC on all the time... you keep a game loaded???? So it's sucking down hundreds of W just sitting there?????
How long does a cold boot take these days? Like seriously? For me with a M.2 drive, from power button to useable Windows is like 20-30 seconds. Crazy!
Or a sign of wasting electricity...I'm sure there are lots of computers that never do get shut down and run 24/7/365.
It's the sign of a truly "TUF" system.
That said, I leave my PC on for the day... I'm generally at it or going back to it. But at night when I'm done working it gets shut off. Same thing after a gaming session... just goes off.
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Apparently, I'm not the only one, and it's not about the time it takes to boot, but rather the time to load games, which can take a hour for these very intense games.So, not only is your PC on all the time... you keep a game loaded???? So it's sucking down hundreds of W just sitting there?????
How long does a cold boot take these days? Like seriously? For me with a M.2 drive, from power button to useable Windows is like 20-30 seconds. Crazy!
Or a sign of wasting electricity...
My system uses no more than a house decorated with Christmas lights.
Are we comparing carbon footprints?
EDIT: Consider it a testing ground for AIO CPU coolers.
My original rig (ASUS TUF x79) was built using the first AIO Intel back in 2012 (which I'm still using right now), but the bearing eventually seized after 6 years. I replaced it with a Corsair H10, which died after a year of this stress, then began using the ENERMAX, which has held up great and only had to replace it recently because the bearing was starting to squeak and temps would only cool to 48c and escalate to 80c under a heavy load from games.
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Folding@Home.
Not much at all. Hibernation does use more power (I think we're talking like 1-2W) than off.
Still, that's WAY better than sitting idle (typically 60-80W+ depending on mobo/etc.), or even sleep mode (also just a few/several watts).
Ha! Of course, if it's actually doing something, that's quite different.Folding@Home.
I was just going through the entire process. I know some games can take a minute to load, but an hour? WTF BBQ? I can get flying in MS FS in less than a couple of mins...
What 'intense game' takes an hour to load????
EL OH EL... that's for like a month.My system uses no more than a house decorated with Christmas lights.
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I am 100% in on keeping games running to save the loading time. On the weekends, when I'm ready to play, I'm ready now. Not in three days after a background check.... No wait. That's something different. I do however, keep my current game running pretty much all weekend long. My F@H stats will show it.
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This of course depends on if you're playing with a single account as opposed to having more than one account with a game server, where the game server requires you to wait before loading a separate account, or it will log you off the other account.
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I mean, color me surprised. This is the first (and second) time I've heard of people consistently running their games and walking away from your PC. Perhaps it's a game genre thing. I couldn't imagine just leaving PUBG/BF/COD/AOE/PGA 2K23/Fortnite etc. just 'running'. I don't mind the minute it takes to load up and get into a game.
Outside of wasting loads of energy (I'll show you my carbon footprint if you show me yours...lol) and raising electric bills (difference between idle and game load on my PC is almost 300W), it heats up my office (12x12) and top floor (bad in summer!!) so it's just not feasible without running the window AC, which I typically only run to keep the testing environment the same. I dunno........ just weird.
Outside of wasting loads of energy (I'll show you my carbon footprint if you show me yours...lol) and raising electric bills (difference between idle and game load on my PC is almost 300W), it heats up my office (12x12) and top floor (bad in summer!!) so it's just not feasible without running the window AC, which I typically only run to keep the testing environment the same. I dunno........ just weird.
What is this, a bread crumb? LOL! What GAME takes an hour to load or switch between accounts?
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I play turn based games that love to load a ton of data before they'll run. Yes, my little office (also about 12x12') gets hot in the summer. We keep the door closed at night and I can open a window to let the heat out. In the winter, we also keep the door closed at night but it's the most comfortable room (except for the fan noise) in the house with the vent closed.
Because I play turn based games, I can, and often do, get up and walk away from the game as I remember chores to do and what not. So leaving the game even mid-turn is no big deal and I suffer no penalty like you might in the games you listed. I don't know.
Because I play turn based games, I can, and often do, get up and walk away from the game as I remember chores to do and what not. So leaving the game even mid-turn is no big deal and I suffer no penalty like you might in the games you listed. I don't know.
Gotcha, yeah, I just picture it idle in the game's menu screen. I can see long-running turn-based and not wanting to leave mid-game. But after it's all said and done, I shut my PC off... typically every night. No game, even MS FS makes me want to leave it running/in the menu screen so I can quickly start a game.
.........and by off, I mean, w/e the heck W11 actually does by default (hibernate?).
.........and by off, I mean, w/e the heck W11 actually does by default (hibernate?).
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It's not just games.
Some of us work remotely from home and manage databases / networks as admins, where you have to remain signed in and ready to deal with problems on a moments notice.
When your computer is shut down, meaning you're unavailable and offline, they know it.
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