Thoroughbred vs non-Thoroughbred

[Ragnarok]

A question about the 1700+ in particular.

The thoroughbreds, which were produced after the non T-breds (I think), cost less. Why do they cost less?


Yeah, this question embarasses me, too. But damn it, I want in on the learning curve...

 

[Supertrucker]

because the tbred has pushed the speed boundry for the athlon to a higher level making the 1700 a lower chip at a lower cost maby? or were you talking production costs?

 

[OC Detective]

because the tbred has pushed the speed boundry for the athlon to a higher level making the 1700 a lower chip at a lower cost maby? or were you talking production costs?

Both - the 1700 is now at very low end of scale whereas as a palomino was around mid range also the production costs for AMD have decreased as yields have improved as they travel along the experience curve

 

[c627627]

For the same reason cheapest Athlon 1.2GHz 200 FSB costs $76 (!) - and that's the lowest price on pricewatch.com.

Only newer mobos can take new processors.
For example, SOYO K7ADA v1.0 can take a Palomino 2100+ but can't take a T-bred 1700. Volume sales dictate marketing so they lower the price for a product that is available everywhere to try to lure customers in.

So why pay $76 for a 1.2 GHz Athlon... because your mobo can't take anything higher so you're stuck. Same thing for Palominos now. Production values are a valid but secondary reason...

 

[Gnufsh]

Thoroughbreds cost less to make because of their smaller die size, you can get more on a wafer.

 

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by c627627
Only newer mobos can take new processors.

Are you saying that a mobo that can support palominos won't necessarily support TBreds... even if it advertises support for all XP processors?

 

[Lithan]

1. Tbreds cost less to make
2. Tbreds are being produced now. When palli's were being made a 1700+ was a more valuable chip. Prices drop fast on cpu's.
3. Tbreds have been shifted to replace durons. They were performance chips in the Palli era, now they are value chips.

 

[c627627]

Originally posted by Ragnarok Are you saying that a mobo that can support palominos won't necessarily support TBreds... even if it advertises support for all XP processors?

Oh yes, it would be a huge mistake to order a T-Bred for an older mobo without triple checking the official web site for info or doing a search on google to say the least. If you do not, click on the following to see what can happen:

Fooling mobo into thinking T-Bred A is a Palomino?

The mobo in question can "officially" take 2200+, but cannot take any T-Breds. (Even though it was discussed that there are no 2200+ Palominos.)