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VMware Player 3.0 beta: 4 CPU support & can create VMs

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Well did you try installing XP in a VM and see if that one works on an XP host?

Is it a VMplayer or XP issue?

Looks like I'll be good to go once I figure out samba in Debian.
 
No, I haven't. That would satisfy curiosity if there were an issue only seeing samba shares from an XP host. But I believe the issue is the virtual network adapters and how they work on an XP host more than what guest OS is being run.

We assume it's a VMWare Player issue with the virtual network adapters... because going back to v2.5.x works just fine.
 
It has to be a VMware Player 3.0 issue as every VM guest is accessible from its XP host with Server, Workstation or Player 2.5.2 or 2.5.3 with Notfreds, Ubuntu 7.10, Ubuntu 8.04 or 9.10 as guest. I created two new virtual machines (ubuntu 9.10) with Player 3.0 and neither is accessible from the XP host. It looks like whatever I do, I cant see the guest on an XP host. I can go to another one of my XP computers and access all the networked VMs being hosted by XP except the guest on that machine.
 
Too bad the older versions are not coded to run 4 processors in stand alone mode.

Since XP wasn't listed as an approved host OS, I'm not sure VMware will fix this if it works in the approved host OSes.
 
Where do you see that Audio?

From the release notes on 3.0 RC it says the following:

New Support for 32-Bit and 64-Bit Operating Systems

This release provides support for the following host and guest operating systems in addition to those operating systems already supported:

Operating System

Host and Guest Support
Windows 7 Home Basic
Windows 7 Premium
Windows 7 Business
Windows 7 Enterprise
Windows 7 Ultimate

Viewed from this page: http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-10126

So was XP not supported on Player v2.5.x? :D Hopefully they'll fix it. :) Otherwise, I'm getting the itch for an i7... and it would become my main, which would also necessitate updating to Windows 7. :) Problem solved for me. ;)
 
Player 3.0
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New Support for 32-Bit and 64-Bit Operating Systems  

This release provides support for the following host and guest operating systems 
[COLOR="Yellow"]in addition to those operating systems already supported[/COLOR]:

      Operating System
      	
      Host and Guest Support
      Windows 7 Home Basic
      Windows 7 Premium
      Windows 7 Business
      Windows 7 Enterprise
      Windows 7 Ultimate 	Host and guest
      Windows 2008 SP2, R2 	Guest
      Windows Vista SP2 	Guest
      Debian 5 	Guest
      Ubuntu 9.04 	Host and guest
      Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3 	Host and guest
      CentOS 5.3 	Guest
      Oracle Enterprise Linux 5.3 	Guest
      OpenSUSE 11.x 	Host and guest
      Mandriva 2009 	Host and guest
      SUSE Linux Enterprise 11.x 	Host and guest

Player 2.5.3
Code:
Operating System Support  	[COLOR="Yellow"]Windows 32-bit, Windows 64-bit[/COLOR], Linux 32-bit, Linux 64-bit

I stand corrected. However will they invest in XP as a host OS and fix this issue?

BTW here's the expiration date for that Player 3.0 beta:
 

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My host OS is XP 32-bit sp3 and I have no network issues *shrug*. Heres my vmx

Code:
.encoding = "windows-1252"
config.version = "8"
virtualHW.version = "7"
numvcpus = "4"
vcpu.hotadd = "TRUE"
maxvcpus = "0"
scsi0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
memsize = "1024"
scsi0:0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0:0.fileName = "lnxfoldtest4.vmdk"
ide1:0.present = "TRUE"
ide1:0.fileName = "D:"
ide1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-raw"
floppy0.startConnected = "FALSE"
floppy0.fileName = ""
floppy0.autodetect = "TRUE"
ethernet0.present = "TRUE"
ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000"
ethernet0.wakeOnPcktRcv = "FALSE"
ethernet0.addressType = "generated"
usb.present = "TRUE"
usb.generic.autoconnect = "FALSE"
sound.present = "TRUE"
sound.startConnected = "FALSE"
sound.fileName = "-1"
sound.autodetect = "TRUE"
pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge4.functions = "8"
pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge5.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge5.functions = "8"
pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge6.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge6.functions = "8"
pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge7.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge7.functions = "8"
vmci0.present = "TRUE"
roamingVM.exitBehavior = "go"
displayName = "lnxfoldtest4"
guestOS = "ubuntu-64"
nvram = "lnxfoldtest4.nvram"
virtualHW.productCompatibility = "hosted"
gui.exitOnCLIHLT = "FALSE"
extendedConfigFile = "lnxfoldtest4.vmxf"
ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:0c:29:5a:5c:ce"
ethernet0.linkStatePropagation.enable = "TRUE"
tools.syncTime = "FALSE"
uuid.location = "56 4d 60 66 b6 ca eb d2-37 74 12 07 04 5a 5c ce"
uuid.bios = "56 4d 60 66 b6 ca eb d2-37 74 12 07 04 5a 5c ce"
cleanShutdown = "FALSE"
replay.supported = "FALSE"
replay.filename = ""
scsi0:0.redo = ""
pciBridge0.pciSlotNumber = "17"
pciBridge4.pciSlotNumber = "21"
pciBridge5.pciSlotNumber = "22"
pciBridge6.pciSlotNumber = "23"
pciBridge7.pciSlotNumber = "24"
scsi0.pciSlotNumber = "16"
usb.pciSlotNumber = "32"
ethernet0.pciSlotNumber = "33"
sound.pciSlotNumber = "34"
vmci0.pciSlotNumber = "35"
vmotion.checkpointFBSize = "16777216"
ethernet0.generatedAddressOffset = "0"
vmci0.id = "73030862"
tools.remindInstall = "TRUE"

priority.ungrabbed = "idle"
priority.grabbed = "normal"
processor0.use = "FALSE"
processor1.use = "TRUE"
processor2.use = "TRUE"
processor3.use = "TRUE"
processor4.use = "TRUE"
processor5.use = "FALSE"
processor6.use = "FALSE"
processor7.use = "FALSE"
checkpoint.vmState = ""
 
I don't see a significant difference, except perhaps the easy install. I'm making another without using that feature.

Code:
.encoding = "windows-1252"
config.version = "8"
virtualHW.version = "7"
numvcpus = "4"
vcpu.hotadd = "TRUE"
maxvcpus = "0"
scsi0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
memsize = "1084"
scsi0:0.present = "TRUE"
scsi0:0.fileName = "9.10 VM.vmdk"
ide0:0.present = "TRUE"
ide0:0.fileName = "autoinst.iso"
ide0:0.deviceType = "cdrom-image"
ide1:0.present = "TRUE"
ide1:0.fileName = "F:\Ubuntu Linux\9.10\karmic-alternate-amd64.iso"
ide1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-image"
floppy0.fileType = "file"
floppy0.fileName = "autoinst.flp"
floppy0.clientDevice = "FALSE"
ethernet0.present = "TRUE"
ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000"
ethernet0.wakeOnPcktRcv = "FALSE"
ethernet0.addressType = "generated"
ethernet0.linkStatePropagation.enable = "TRUE"
usb.present = "TRUE"
ehci.present = "TRUE"
sound.present = "TRUE"
sound.fileName = "-1"
sound.autodetect = "TRUE"
pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge4.functions = "8"
pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge5.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge5.functions = "8"
pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge6.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge6.functions = "8"
pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge7.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
pciBridge7.functions = "8"
vmci0.present = "TRUE"
roamingVM.exitBehavior = "go"
displayName = "9.10 VM"
guestOS = "ubuntu-64"
nvram = "9.10 VM.nvram"
virtualHW.productCompatibility = "hosted"
gui.exitOnCLIHLT = "FALSE"
easyInstall.keepFloppy = "TRUE"
extendedConfigFile = "9.10 VM.vmxf"
ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:0c:29:07:9b:f0"
tools.syncTime = "FALSE"
uuid.location = "56 4d 93 9a c5 40 82 4a-b7 29 a5 c6 2d 07 9b f0"
uuid.bios = "56 4d 93 9a c5 40 82 4a-b7 29 a5 c6 2d 07 9b f0"
cleanShutdown = "FALSE"
replay.supported = "FALSE"
replay.filename = ""
scsi0:0.redo = ""
pciBridge0.pciSlotNumber = "17"
pciBridge4.pciSlotNumber = "21"
pciBridge5.pciSlotNumber = "22"
pciBridge6.pciSlotNumber = "23"
pciBridge7.pciSlotNumber = "24"
scsi0.pciSlotNumber = "16"
usb.pciSlotNumber = "32"
ethernet0.pciSlotNumber = "33"
sound.pciSlotNumber = "34"
ehci.pciSlotNumber = "35"
vmci0.pciSlotNumber = "36"
vmotion.checkpointFBSize = "18874368"
ethernet0.generatedAddressOffset = "0"
vmci0.id = "755473392"
tools.remindInstall = "TRUE"
ethernet0.vnet = "VMnet0"
ethernet0.connectionType = "bridged"

priority.ungrabbed = "idle"
priority.grabbed = "normal"
 
Wow... that's pretty good PPD for the ole Phenom II. :) I assume that you've got your GTX285 running too?

In contrast, I've got a 3.2GHz Q6600 w/2xGTX260-216 and it's running at almost 4900ppd. These are more like the numbers I used to get with 2xVMs combined on A2 cores prior to 2.10. :)
 
VMPlayer killing my GPU Points

when i run the VMP 3.0 it's going from 36 seconds to 21 minutes a frame ... what gives

Im runnning Win XP GTX 200 ( 216)
 
THe following MUST be in your .vmx file to avoid priority conflicts:

priority.ungrabbed = "idle"

You can also add:

priority.grabbed = "normal"

You have to keep the VMwindow closed (ungrabbbed) so that Player will release the cpu cycles needed by the GPU(s)

The GPU(s) has to be run at low priority (set in -config) or slightly higher (set in systray)
 
ChasR, what I've found is that 'grabbed' means you have the curser in the VM so you can have input control. If the window is only open to view it but the curser isn't inside, it still equals 'ungrabbed' and if set to 'idle', it will still have a low process priority if you look in Task Manager.

At least this is how it seems to be working on my system. See post #23.
 
I think you're right, audio, but for sure it isn't grabbed if it's minimized. The number of time I've gotten up and left a vm grabbed, has cost me considerably.
 
btw, in VMWare server, when I hit X to close the window complete, it still runs at the background. however, it seems like with VMPlayer3.0, when I hit X, it will exit (or more like suspened the OS) the whole thing thus not folding.....??
 
Hmmm...
Does that mean if Windows shuts down (not crashes) the VM gets suspended when Windows shuts down VMplayer?
 
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