1600RAM OC To 2006 With Crazy Timings

[dick66482209]

The bottom kit (rated at PC 12800) is the kit I used for both of the screen shots I gave. Now I will admit I was well over the rated voltage, but I was only running 1.75vdimm for 2400@8-11-7-27-1T. For 2600@8-12-8-28-1T, I was using 1.875vdimm.

The kit that's on top (rated at PC 16000) does 2600@8-12-8-28-1T with 1.8vdimm for loose secondary or can run the secondary and tertiary timings much tighter with 1.825vdimm because those are a much better bin. I had the top set at 2800 8-12-8-28-1T on air, but the voltage was 1.9v+ (and only for a short while).

That's what you get when you spend a fair bit on ram. Notice in the serial number of all four sticks pictured, you find "1040." That signifies that the make of the actual ram chip used is X-series PSC. Which is pretty well known to clock to 2400 at 8-11-7 or 7-11-7, and then run 2600 at 8-12-8. I only use those sticks for benchmarking though, as they cost me quite a bit when compared to a run of the mill set of ram. For daily use, I use a set of 1866 9-10-9 crapola.

Give me a vadilator link like this http://valid.canardpc.com/2852987 cause it says what ram your using
You can be just taking a picture of another RAM

 

[ChanceCoats123]

Lol I don't know why you think I'd lie about something this trivial, but I'll get a validation done tomorrow. Now it's bed time.

 

[||Console||]

And that's my bad set of ram!



What was your cpu speed? I've not run a lot of Maxxmem, but from what I understand, raising core speed helps to get better scores. I notice that your cache is at 4.4, so I assume you're running at least 4.4 on the core. I was at stock clocks with my 3770k. So it might be a few things. I know that Haswell definitely has a better IMC and that might help with the overall throughput of the RAM subsystem, but it might also just come down to the cpu speeds behind it all.

CPU speed is @ my 24/7 speed 4.7 I didnt know that cpu speed would help that bench out .

@ the op I never said these were 1600 sticks , I was just wondering why I me an chance traded blows when his speed and timmings were better than mine . Good job getting your timmings but like said before you are going to kill your sticks.

Here is my Validation but I cant see where it says its ddr3 2133 vs 1600 http://valid.canardpc.com/2856303

 

[ChanceCoats123]

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2856410

With the cpu at 4.7 for Console/



Edit: Console, I just had a thought. Your overall bandwidth was still better than mine, yet my latency was way lower because my timings are clearly better. I'm thinking that the bandwidth might be so high for you because you've got an 8GB kit and mine is 4GB.

 

[bmwbaxter]

I can't take the smugness anymore.

Can someone please link this guy(OP) my Samsung frontpage review. I am mobile right now or I would do it myself.

Much better scaling than his kit.

@op that voltage will kill your ram sooner rather than later and won't get you any better performance.

 

[dudleycpa]

I can't take the smugness anymore.

Can someone please link this guy(OP) my Samsung frontpage review. I am mobile right now or I would do it myself.

Much better scaling than his kit.

@OP that voltage will kill your ram sooner rather than later and won't get you any better performance.

Done: Samsung 2x4GB DDR3-1600 Memory Review

 

[bmwbaxter]

Done: Samsung 2x4GB DDR3-1600 Memory Review

Thanks.

 

[ATMINSIDE]

@OP that voltage will kill your ram sooner rather than later and then you won't get any performance.

Fixed that.

 

[Woomack]

Edit 3:
You mean 2133 RAM doing its normal specs at normal voltage?> lol
1.5V OC from 1600 doing 2166 at that timing is impossible

I think he meant this RAM:
http://www.funkykit.com/component/c...stix-tactical-16gb-2x8gb-ram-kit.html?start=3

here is my review of the same RAM:
http://www.overclockers.com/crucial-ballistix-tactical-lp-16-gb-ddr3-1600-review
actually Bobnova had a bit better kit , mine could make "only" 9-9-10-24 1.50V or 10-9-10-24 1.50V ( depends from board ) and it's 1600 kit at stock

Some other Crucials 1600 @2133 9-9-9-24 ~1.65V:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7160067

Edit:
Chance posted results on G.Skill Pi which has IC similar to these below but G.Skill used it for 1600 kit at tighter timings while Corsair 2000 has more relaxed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45221&d=1326359638 - 2514 7-11-7 ~1.75V
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44638&d=1323562239 - 2654 9-12-10 ~1.67V
To be easier to compare performance both results are on AMD/FX8120

and guess what ... for DDR3-3762 result I needed "only" 2.15V
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2833714

 

[dick66482209]

CPU speed is @ my 24/7 speed 4.7 I didnt know that cpu speed would help that bench out .

@ the op I never said these were 1600 sticks , I was just wondering why I me an chance traded blows when his speed and timmings were better than mine . Good job getting your timmings but like said before you are going to kill your sticks.

Here is my Validation but I cant see where it says its ddr3 2133 vs 1600 http://valid.canardpc.com/2856303

It says Slot 1 : 4096MB (12800)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : G.Skill
(12800) this is where you see what kind of ram your using

Edit 1:

Done: Samsung 2x4GB DDR3-1600 Memory Review

Samsung ? 1600? I saw the timings its crap 11-11-11 get a life Samsung

Edit 2:

CPU speed is @ my 24/7 speed 4.7 I didnt know that cpu speed would help that bench out .

@ the op I never said these were 1600 sticks , I was just wondering why I me an chance traded blows when his speed and timmings were better than mine . Good job getting your timmings but like said before you are going to kill your sticks.

Here is my Validation but I cant see where it says its ddr3 2133 vs 1600 http://valid.canardpc.com/2856303

You only get your RAM killed when you put 3.2V when your RAM can only run at 2.6V etc.

Edit 3:

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2856410

With the cpu at 4.7 for Console/

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Edit: Console, I just had a thought. Your overall bandwidth was still better than mine, yet my latency was way lower because my timings are clearly better. I'm thinking that the bandwidth might be so high for you because you've got an 8GB kit and mine is 4GB.

Yes 8GB kit gives way more bandwidth compared to 4GB its like 50%-100% more bandwidth

 

[LoganG]

did you also see the overclocked timings? 9-9-9

 

[dick66482209]

||Console|| you can improve your timings more
And guys I don't care what RAM your using any more its clearly that your RAM is better and can overclock more (tighter timings and maybe its not even 1600)
Clearly your RAM might be a version of a lower quality of a 2600 or 2133RAM etc.

Edit:

did you also see the overclocked timings? 9-9-9

Yes its clearly that his RAM is way better than my RAM so he could achieve that clock on that low voltage

 

[||Console||]

||Console|| you can improve your timings more
And guys I don't care what RAM your using any more its clearly that your RAM is better and can overclock more (tighter timings and maybe its not even 1600)
Clearly your RAM might be a version of a lower quality of a 2600 or 2133RAM etc.

Edit:

Yes its clearly that his RAM is way better than my RAM so he could achieve that clock on that low voltage

You clearly know more about ram timings than I do I have never had much luck overclocking ram ( unless it was a Popular set that other ppl did all the hard work and I just copyed ) , So if you have any suggestions plz let me know
I was testing out on the weekend 999 would only go to ddr3-1800 and 10-10-10 would only go to ddr3-2000 and still my stock timings beat them both @ those speeds .
I was messing around with 11-11-11-26 and that had better scores in maxmem but wasting stable

 

[Bobnova]

Here's the RAM review of my RAM: http://www.funkykit.com/component/c...al-ballistix-tactical-16gb-2x8gb-ram-kit.html

1600MHz rated. Keep calling people liars and I expect you'll have a short stay here.

EDIT:
RAM size and RAM bandwidth are completely different. Being higher capacity does not give higher bandwidth.

 

[Operant]

I still cannot understand why this is up for debate. 2.6V is going to kill your ram, plain and simple. It doesn't matter where your sticks came from or how "special" they are, this voltage is nuts for anything other than subzero (and even then it is pushing it). Your gains for benchmarks are going to be minimal and if you really wanted a better set, you should have just gone for some higher clocked memory (or a better set that will do it with less voltage). OP, you can deny it all you want but every bit of evidence thus far will disagree with your claims.

 

[hokiealumnus]

OP, you need to drop this attitude or you won't be long for this forum.

 

[Mr.Scott]

You only get your RAM killed when you put 3.2V when your RAM can only run at 2.6V etc.

Really? Ever heard of BH-5?
Don't really wish to engage, just letting you know that you don't know.

 

[freeagent]

Pretty neat that he can feed his ddr3 ddr1 voltages.. I didn't think the newer stuff could take it!

I would probably only do that to a set I hated.

I wonder how old those sticks are? Older DDR3 on chipsets like x48 are ok with 2+v..

 

[Bobnova]

First generation D9 DDR3 could take <2v for sustained periods if you put a monster fan on it. It still degraded and died though.
Nothing modern lasts very long >2v.

 

[dick66482209]

Here's the RAM review of my RAM: http://www.funkykit.com/component/c...al-ballistix-tactical-16gb-2x8gb-ram-kit.html

1600MHz rated. Keep calling people liars and I expect you'll have a short stay here.

EDIT:
RAM size and RAM bandwidth are completely different. Being higher capacity does not give higher bandwidth.

Your RAM is a good *** RAM 1.35V at 8-8-8
That explains your clock speed and timings