5870 real pics :D and specs :D

[dribblesnort]

Isn't Chiphell the same site that posted the bogus photochopped pics? (at work and can't see those in the thread because they are blocked)

 

[Neuromancer]

Probably just spotty prerelease drivers or something.

What drives me batty is the graphs themselves. They made the Nvidia baseline show as 100% on the graph but then 120% performance is a bar fully twice as high. It makes it hard to tell at a glance. Lies, damned lies, and statistics, I guess..

Yah but EVERYONE does that and it is pretty common knowledge to look at numbers and not pretty pictures

What kills me is the reviews were they make 100FPS the zero mark and it 3 inches of bar = 1FPS so it makes certain cards look AWESOME when there is not real difference at all. (And that is even more common than starting at 50% )

 

[freeagent]

Heres a bit of a closer look...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234555

 

[Niku-Sama]

well then you have to factor in that some games are geared tward one maker or another running better with piticular hardware.

MOAR BENCHES!

 

[Dolk]

This gift comes hot

 

[dribblesnort]

Hot is right!

 

[xtkxhom3r]

very hot indeed.... nothing watercooling cant fix though

 

[ratbuddy]

very hot indeed.... nothing watercooling cant fix though

He's got the fan manually set to 20/30%. Temps are pretty low, considering that.

 

[Neural Net]

He's got the fan manually set to 20/30%. Temps are pretty low, considering that.

Yep, the temps actually look quite reasonable, you could easily run the card 10 degrees hotter than that with no problems.

 

[Neuromancer]

This gift comes hot

http://resources.vr-zone.com/image_deposit/up2/125311616371f1ddfcbf.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/image_deposit/up2/12531161893a5a06fe7a.jpg

If you consider how much smaller the die size is than nVidias 200 series, it would be much harder to cool. Cant fit 4 heatpipes on a tiny die.

 

[Mjolnir]

But at 30% the fans probably acceptable.. I've found with the 'normal' editions of most ATI cards, the cooling, although it does work, is often far too loud. So increasing past say 50% may be too audible for some people? But like others said it's still fairly cool for 75% activity with only a 30% fan speed. Some aftermarket coolers or watercooling I'm sure would drop that number significantly.

 

[Dapman02]

$400?!?!?!??!!?!!!?!

I thought they said it was suppose to be cheaper than a GTX285. Maybe I'll wait for big green to drive down the price.

 

[freeagent]

$400?!?!?!??!!?!!!?!

I thought they said it was suppose to be cheaper than a GTX285. Maybe I'll wait for big green to drive down the price.

Where I come from, a 285 is 500 beans with the 13% tax we have. I have been conditioned into thinking its ok to spend 600 on a gpu if you feel its worth it

You could always get a 5850

 

[satansangel114]

Ill take 2 please!

 

[hitokiri_808]

Wow those cards underclock far at idle. Anybody know what voltage range these dies run at?

 

[Niku-Sama]

If you consider how much smaller the die size is than nVidias 200 series, it would be much harder to cool. Cant fit 4 heatpipes on a tiny die.

its not gobbling the power and creating as much heat though

 

[Aztroth]

is it just me or does the 5850 just stomp the 4890 in sheer power? also, the 4870 was $300 when it came out, why can't these follow suit!?

 

[Essenar]

is it just me or does the 5850 just stomp the 4890 in sheer power? also, the 4870 was $300 when it came out, why can't these follow suit!?

The issue with the 4870/4850 is that ATI currently had NOTHING in the market to compete with Nvidia's G90/G200 combo take over. At the time, they had the GTX280 at the top echelon, the GTX260 right under it, the 9800GTX, 8800GTS 512, 8800GT, 8800GT 256, 8800GS. The only card ATI had was the HD3870.

They needed the HD4870 to hit Nvidia where it hurt, the GTX260/9800GTX.

Right now, the ball is still in their court. They still have the HD4890, HD4870 1GB, HD4870, HD4850 right under the 5870 and 5850. I'm sure Nvidia will respond and ATI's cards won't stay at $400/300.

 

[dribblesnort]

is it just me or does the 5850 just stomp the 4890 in sheer power? also, the 4870 was $300 when it came out, why can't these follow suit!?

Early Adopters will always pay a higher price

But, keep in mind that suggested retail and what the street price is, can sometimes differ by 50 dollars or so...

If I recall correctly, The prices of the 4870 when it was initially released was around $349 but, with the launch day rebates and competing offers from nVidia's immediate price drop, the prices of the 4870s dropped by $50 within 1-2 days of their launch.

I know I got my two 4870s on 7-13-08 for right around $295 each and the screenshot I had of my order reflected a $45 instant-off type rebate...I think the launch of the 4870 was right around the 12th of July so that's 1 day after launch and the price had dropped $45

I look for something similar to happen next week when the ATI cards launch.

nVidia will do a paper launch of the whopping SEVEN examples of the GT300 cards they made with their first wafer (lol) and then drop the prices of some of their higher end cards to make them comparable in price to the ATIs. ATI will then let loose with a few instant $50 off rebates of their own and prices will remain within $50 of the launch price of the 4870.

 

[ratbuddy]

nVidia will do a paper launch of the whopping SEVEN examples of the GT300 cards they made with their first wafer

Source?