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That is an average TDP for the 3800+ should be a good OCer. But TCaseMax & TDP do not predict OCability but rather more suggest on it, it might be better or worse than other CPU with this rating.
 
That's the highest TDP on these types of chips, again on average these chips run relatively hot at stock but should OC like crazy.
And looking at your overclock its beeing proven :)
 
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: Dual Core AMD Opteron 170 (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2700.81 (270.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 49C
TDP: 35.0 Watts

Looks like mine wont be a great OCer :( but it does run pretty cool :)
 
Here's a pic of my X2 3800 from the Fry's deal in AZ. Same numbers as InfiniteThought's...

TCaseMax.PNG
 
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2900.00 (290.00 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 67.0 Watts


CABNE
 
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.13
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 3010.58 (301.06 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 61.8 Watts

Very interesting program. Thank you
 
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.13
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: F, Stepping: 0
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2F, Stepping: 0
CPUID String: 20FF0
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (Venice)
CPU Speed: 1808.33 (200.93 x 9.0)
Revision: DH8-E3
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 57C
TDP: 44.1 Watts

so what again constitutes a good ocer? high MTC and TDP?
 
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.13
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 150 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2959.32 (269.03 x 11.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 67.6 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=83
 
Update:
I don't know what to make of this (Look at attachment pic)

A lot of people have been getting 49C TCM Opteron lately, some of them were not as good OCers as others, some were pretty damn good overclockers.
The TCM field in a processor is a 4 bit field, and the TCM is calculated like this:
TCM = 49 + (Field * 2)
this means that for 49C the field is 0. This could either signify 49C TCM or a higher than the Max TCM within the thermal profile, which makes more sense.


*EDIT:* I posted about this in AMD's own forum, let's see what answer we can get out of them.
 

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CPUID: 20F71
APICID: 0
Revision SH8-E4
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego) <---confused CPU-Z sais its a Venus
Speed: 2739.98 (274x10.0)
Platform: Socket 939
VCore: 1.400v
TCaseMax: 63C*
TDP: 61.8 Watts
 
The_SiNiC said:
CPUID: 20F71
APICID: 0
Revision SH8-E4
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego) <---confused CPU-Z sais its a Venus
Speed: 2739.98 (274x10.0)
Platform: Socket 939
VCore: 1.400v
TCaseMax: 63C*
TDP: 61.8 Watts
CPU-z is wrong. Check this list or core names
 
Basically what AMD said is this:
Any chip with the TCM field set to '0' will not have an actual TCM/TDP rating, as that value has been discarded.
So currently all the "49C TCM" Opterons we've seen actually have unknown TCM/TDP values as of now...
 
The Coolest its strange that there is no value assigned yet the Opteron thermal profiles all show the correlation for a TCase Max of 49C to a Power figure.
On the subject of that - can you confirm if the value for power shown in the tables is actually the TDP for that cpu for the given TCasemax rather than the power output under the specific circumstance of when the ambient temperature is 42C. I guess what I am saying is that if the ambient was say 25C for a user can you still say the Power figure shown in the table for the TCasemax you have for your cpu is correct?
Also as there is a shown relationship between TCasemax and TDP do you know which is the independent variable and which is the dependent one? i.e. which one is actually measured to provide information on the other.
 
...AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.14

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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 7, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 27, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20F71
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Opteron 146 (San Diego)
CPU Speed: 2600.05 (260.01 x 10.0)
Revision: SH8-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.400v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 50.0 Watts
 
OC Detective said:
The Coolest its strange that there is no value assigned yet the Opteron thermal profiles all show the correlation for a TCase Max of 49C to a Power figure.
On the subject of that - can you confirm if the value for power shown in the tables is actually the TDP for that cpu for the given TCasemax rather than the power output under the specific circumstance of when the ambient temperature is 42C. I guess what I am saying is that if the ambient was say 25C for a user can you still say the Power figure shown in the table for the TCasemax you have for your cpu is correct?
Also as there is a shown relationship between TCasemax and TDP do you know which is the independent variable and which is the dependent one? i.e. which one is actually measured to provide information on the other.
Well... What I did is this:
I read the TCaseMax value from the CPU, then check what CPU it is (by BrandID, CPUID and PR rating values), and then match the TCM to a table of TDPs that's correlated to the specific processor.
I can't really confirm what you're asking, but I'm pretty sure that in most cases this figure will be relatively accurate.

I also think that TDP and TCM depend on each other. The higher the TDP, the higher the current leakage, thus the higher TCM the CPU can reach.
 
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