For Anyone Interested- Barton 2.2Ghz VS 3700+

[Grov]

Thought id just post a few comparisons between the two, as i know a few guys are interested and it might help.

The Barton rig was as follows:
2200mhz XP Mobile (11x200)
Abit NF7-S Rev 2.0
Memory in Sig
Video Card in Sig

I ran all the benchies with the 4.9 Cats, and performance silder all the way, for driver setting.

I didn't have time to do any game benchmarks as such, but i ran 3dmark 2001/2003, Aquamark 3 and PC Mark 2002.

Barton results on the left, A64 3700+ results on the right in ().

3DMark 2001: 20,711 (27,006)

3DMark 2003: 11,741 (12,471)

Aquakmark 3: 52,770 (63,081)
GFX: 7893 (9,249)
CPU: 7962 (9,917)

PCMark 2002:
CPU: 7,047 (7,822)
Memory: 6,151 (9,782)
HDD: 876 (1,149)

What you guys think about the results?

Very surprised by the GFX difference in Aquaka, shows the XP was a bottleneck a lot, and the 01 score im lovin.

Considering it's all stock, im lovin the power of this AMD64, so glad you guys convinced me to get one.

Of the games ive played, i noticed a big Differnece in UT2004. When using bots, the frame rate is probly 50% more than it was before.

 

[9mmCensor]

Nice, the power of the A64, sure is sweet.

 

[Status:72]

wow for the price the a64 wasnt worth it! specially since your running the mobile at 2.2ghz!

 

[computer_geek]

thats not a real big jump though considering the price of A64 i would like to see @least a 20k jump not 10k that not worth a upgrade as untill it is a even double score then upgrade not a couple of thousand extra

 

[nl_rick]

What are the difference when you are using the mobile at 2.4ghz .. would be cool to see this

 

[alpal]

He is just trying to state an opinion about the difference between the processors, it may not be worth the price upgrade in YOUR opinion but maybe to him it is worth it. Anyway, very nice results Grov that helps out a lot. Do you plan on OCing that 64 at all? Looks like you already have the equipment for it. Thanks for the results.

 

[UndyingClocker]

If ur Mobile was at 2.6 im sure would own that 3700+, Pretty much u wasted ur money..i dont mean to put it in such a harsh way but u really did, You could have got the same performance and not spend anything.

 

[Cyrix_2k]

If ur Mobile was at 2.6 im sure would own that 3700+, Pretty much u wasted ur money..i dont mean to put it in such a harsh way but u really did, You could have got the same performance and not spend anything.

Have you used both?

 

[dicecca112]

I second cyrix I remember that someone posted here that to equal an a64 at 2.2, an AXP would have to be at 2.9

 

[{pdX}Canadatron]

I'm gonna give the 64 a little time to settle. It's still a first generation chip and we all know what can happen to those....Slot A anyone?

 

[computer_geek]

we wernt going agaisnt his benchies thats good info to all . it just goes to show that it aint time to upgrade yet .

sorry to whom may have been offended .
AXP owns A64 still

 

[Chowdy]

If ur Mobile was at 2.6 im sure would own that 3700+, Pretty much u wasted ur money..i dont mean to put it in such a harsh way but u really did, You could have got the same performance and not spend anything.

But you can also OC a 3700+ 64... and it will be faster than any barton short of using extreme cooling.

 

[dicecca112]

we wernt going agaisnt his benchies thats good info to all . it just goes to show that it aint time to upgrade yet .

sorry to whom may have been offended .
AXP owns A64 still

How does AXP own A64?????

The oced benchs of an axp is still worse than an a64. It's faster by far. How many more benchies do you want, you want SuperPI or do you want Prime95, what? Thats like saying a PIII owns a p4

 

[computer_geek]

well look

ust wondering if 38s is good for a newcastle at 235fsb and 2.35GHz? I hear superpi cant really take advantage of a64s so they barely beat athlon xps

A64 3200 1mb ram is 1:1 @ 3-4-4-8-1t @ 284mhzx9 4xHTT 2550mhz when i did that and i got 31 seconds


this is mine
kingmax ddr433@480 cas 2.5.3.3.11 3.12v cpu11x240@2640ghz

ron@ttyp0[yoper]# ./super_pi 20
Version 2.0 of the super_pi for Linux OS
Fortran source program was translated into C program with version 19981204 of
f2c, then generated C source program was optimized manually.
pgcc 3.2-3 with compile option of "-fast -tp px -Mbuiltin -Minline=size:1000 -M
noframe -Mnobounds -Mcache_align -Mdalign -Mnoreentrant" was used for the
compilation.
------ Started super_pi run : Sun Jan 4 05:31:17 CET 2004
Start of PI calculation up to 1048576 decimal digits
End of initialization. Time= 0.460 Sec.
I= 1 L= 0 Time= 1.450 Sec.
I= 2 L= 0 Time= 1.710 Sec.
I= 3 L= 1 Time= 1.660 Sec.
I= 4 L= 2 Time= 1.680 Sec.
I= 5 L= 5 Time= 1.620 Sec.
I= 6 L= 10 Time= 1.670 Sec.
I= 7 L= 21 Time= 1.700 Sec.
I= 8 L= 43 Time= 1.700 Sec.
I= 9 L= 87 Time= 1.660 Sec.
I=10 L= 174 Time= 1.710 Sec.
I=11 L= 349 Time= 1.700 Sec.
I=12 L= 698 Time= 1.630 Sec.
I=13 L= 1396 Time= 1.650 Sec.
I=14 L= 2794 Time= 1.600 Sec.
I=15 L= 5588 Time= 1.660 Sec.
I=16 L= 11176 Time= 1.580 Sec.
I=17 L= 22353 Time= 1.620 Sec.
I=18 L= 44707 Time= 1.600 Sec.
I=19 L= 89415 Time= 1.490 Sec.
End of main loop
End of calculation. Time= 32.870 Sec.
End of data output. Time= 0.120 Sec.
Total calculation(I/O) time= 32.990( 0.810) Sec.

think u lost super pi

 

[Status:72]

How does AXP own A64?????

The oced benchs of an axp is still worse than an a64. It's faster by far. How many more benchies do you want, you want SuperPI or do you want Prime95, what? Thats like saying a PIII owns a p4

it comes down to the mighty dollar, my AXP-m is at 2.7ghz which sure is better than the 3700+a64 and i paid 3times less

 

[Red02TA]

I think that is a pretty good sized difference. Thanks for posting it. My XP-M runs at 2500 mhz, so atleast now I get an idea of where it would fall.

Also, I would LOVE to see a comparison of a 2600 or 2700mhz AXP against an A64 3700. I am not sure the AXP would own much....

Then, OC the A64 3700 and see who owns who.. might as well be fair and max them both out right?

 

[dicecca112]

computer geek, I'll get my AXP to 2.7 and get some benchies and we'll leave the 3700+ at stock and I guarentee it will still beat it.

 

[Cyrix_2k]

Saying a 2.7ghz AXP owns the 3700+ A64 is like saying a 100mhz 486DX/4 owns a 75mhz Pentium...

 

[Vengance_01]

it comes down to the mighty dollar, my AXP-m is at 2.7ghz which sure is better than the 3700+a64 and i paid 3times less

I hate to break it to way, an A64 will destroy even a highly O/Ced Barton core. I used to run a [email protected] and my [email protected] is just nuts, so much faster. In UT2k4 my god, FPS went through the roof. All you saying yours is better if you dio not own an A64, shut your mouth

 

[UndyingClocker]

Its not the Mhz for me really i dont have a source of income because im only 15 and dont have a job so thats why i was saying i would rather buy the 2500 M which costs five times less then the 3700+ A64, but i can still get the same performance for much less of the price. I didn't mean to offend the thread starter in any way, Sorry.


Mobile's OWN!!