Phenom II and i7 OC charts
This thread has been updated to show updated results. The original data provided this this thread, will remain to allow refrence. There is an updated section below the original is the updated information. All prices are pulled from Newegg.com. All Overclocking results have been pulled from www.ripping.org.
New Section: Updated on September 9th 2009. EXCEPTION: i7 and Phenom II information was not updated, only i5 information was added.
So I listened to this podcast today. The speakers said that they personally went down to AMD and saw the OC happen. They noted that it was around 6ghz, and the voltage was around 1.9. This even was the same one that people have been talking about all over the web. If you listen to the Podcast you can hear more about what went on.
Out of curiosity, I wanted to see how the i7 stacked up against the "known" Phenom II OC results. So I hunted the web and came up with a lot of data. Most of this data is for i7 but I found enough to get a general comparison.
All sources are listed at the bottom.
This information is comparing how well i7 and PII can Overclock (OC). This is not to see who has the better clock ratio but rather which would end up to be the better CPU to OC.
Here is the graph for the i7. The graph has all three i7 CPUs.
Here is the graph for the Phenom II 940. This data that I have collected throughout the internet.
From the above charts you can easily tell that the i7 965 has the slight upper hand in all of this. With the ability to go up to 5.5ghz at around 1.67 volts is pretty impressive. However, how much more voltage will be required to get to 6ghz and beyond? AMD was able to show off what they could do with the PII 940 and they are using the 790GX / SB750.
Even though there is not enough data on the PII, I still believe that we can see a relationship between the i7 and the PII right now. For the second part of this post, I want to show you the price difference with i7 and PII. The only variable that will most likely change is the price of the PII CPU. But one can argue that the price for the i7 will also drop once the PII comes out. For now I will use what I have.
In general the information above shows first the prices for the Motherboards (min, max, and average), along with the price of the CPU.(All source information can be found at the bottom of this page). To the right shows a chart and its data. I wanted to see what the price per MHz would be for each CPU. The speed of each CPU is the average OC of each CPU. Again this may not seem like enough information for comparison, but this does give us a early look at what we may expect.
The results are pretty amazing. The obvious result is the i7 965. What really got me was where the PII 940 stood compared to the i7. With this early data we can see that it would be better to go AMD. But then there is the factor of power consumption and the difference between MHz to voltage. In order to get that information there would need to be more data. The Intel side is still getting used to OCing with the i7. If you look at the graphs again up top, you can see that the speed to voltage ratio is everywhere, although it does show a small pattern, but still not enough.
So with all that what do you guys think? In my opinion, I believe that AMD actually has a chance here for the best to OC.
Source
PII 940 OC and Voltages Sources
http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Sneak-Peeks-Phenom-II-Overclocks-To-5GHz/
http://www.techspot.com/news/32576-AMD-shows-off-PhenomII-overclocked-to-63GHz.html
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=209878
Prices for PII
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/11/26/phenom-ii-prices-listed
Overclocking results of i7
http://www.ripping.org/database.php?coreidwr=Bloomfield
More information regarding the different Overclocking speeds of the PII 940 can be found in these threads:
AMD Phenom II
5GHZ + Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice
All AMD Motherboards that were compared have been checked with the AM3 Compatible Motherboard list.
All Prices for i7 Motherboards, i7 CPUs, and AM2+ Motherboards came from www.newegg.com
In no way is this data 100% accurate. This data is a rough estimate and is used to see what the possible outcome may be.
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Updated Section
Phenom II OC Chart
i7 OC Chart
i5 OC Chart
MHZrice Chart
Now that the i5 has come out, there has been a lot of talk that AMD will be booted out of the low budget to mid-high end budget computers. With looking at the costs, I will have to say that there will be a good battle between the two companies. For about 9 months AMD has held the ground with the mid market, now with these new i5 and i3 CPUs, the battlefield will heat up. But this isn't what my article is about, its about how well the each overclocks. With little overclocking information on the new i5 and i7 chips, they are probably far from done with the max. But still to this day, the Phenom II shows the best cost per an OC, not to mention that i-series Intel chips still lack the ability to make it into the 6ghz range once more.
This thread has been updated to show updated results. The original data provided this this thread, will remain to allow refrence. There is an updated section below the original is the updated information. All prices are pulled from Newegg.com. All Overclocking results have been pulled from www.ripping.org.
New Section: Updated on September 9th 2009. EXCEPTION: i7 and Phenom II information was not updated, only i5 information was added.
So I listened to this podcast today. The speakers said that they personally went down to AMD and saw the OC happen. They noted that it was around 6ghz, and the voltage was around 1.9. This even was the same one that people have been talking about all over the web. If you listen to the Podcast you can hear more about what went on.
Out of curiosity, I wanted to see how the i7 stacked up against the "known" Phenom II OC results. So I hunted the web and came up with a lot of data. Most of this data is for i7 but I found enough to get a general comparison.
All sources are listed at the bottom.
This information is comparing how well i7 and PII can Overclock (OC). This is not to see who has the better clock ratio but rather which would end up to be the better CPU to OC.
Here is the graph for the i7. The graph has all three i7 CPUs.
Here is the graph for the Phenom II 940. This data that I have collected throughout the internet.
From the above charts you can easily tell that the i7 965 has the slight upper hand in all of this. With the ability to go up to 5.5ghz at around 1.67 volts is pretty impressive. However, how much more voltage will be required to get to 6ghz and beyond? AMD was able to show off what they could do with the PII 940 and they are using the 790GX / SB750.
Even though there is not enough data on the PII, I still believe that we can see a relationship between the i7 and the PII right now. For the second part of this post, I want to show you the price difference with i7 and PII. The only variable that will most likely change is the price of the PII CPU. But one can argue that the price for the i7 will also drop once the PII comes out. For now I will use what I have.
In general the information above shows first the prices for the Motherboards (min, max, and average), along with the price of the CPU.(All source information can be found at the bottom of this page). To the right shows a chart and its data. I wanted to see what the price per MHz would be for each CPU. The speed of each CPU is the average OC of each CPU. Again this may not seem like enough information for comparison, but this does give us a early look at what we may expect.
The results are pretty amazing. The obvious result is the i7 965. What really got me was where the PII 940 stood compared to the i7. With this early data we can see that it would be better to go AMD. But then there is the factor of power consumption and the difference between MHz to voltage. In order to get that information there would need to be more data. The Intel side is still getting used to OCing with the i7. If you look at the graphs again up top, you can see that the speed to voltage ratio is everywhere, although it does show a small pattern, but still not enough.
So with all that what do you guys think? In my opinion, I believe that AMD actually has a chance here for the best to OC.
Source
PII 940 OC and Voltages Sources
http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Sneak-Peeks-Phenom-II-Overclocks-To-5GHz/
http://www.techspot.com/news/32576-AMD-shows-off-PhenomII-overclocked-to-63GHz.html
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=209878
Prices for PII
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/11/26/phenom-ii-prices-listed
Overclocking results of i7
http://www.ripping.org/database.php?coreidwr=Bloomfield
More information regarding the different Overclocking speeds of the PII 940 can be found in these threads:
AMD Phenom II
5GHZ + Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice
All AMD Motherboards that were compared have been checked with the AM3 Compatible Motherboard list.
All Prices for i7 Motherboards, i7 CPUs, and AM2+ Motherboards came from www.newegg.com
In no way is this data 100% accurate. This data is a rough estimate and is used to see what the possible outcome may be.
============================================================================================
============================================================================================
Updated Section
Phenom II OC Chart
i7 OC Chart
i5 OC Chart
MHZrice Chart
Now that the i5 has come out, there has been a lot of talk that AMD will be booted out of the low budget to mid-high end budget computers. With looking at the costs, I will have to say that there will be a good battle between the two companies. For about 9 months AMD has held the ground with the mid market, now with these new i5 and i3 CPUs, the battlefield will heat up. But this isn't what my article is about, its about how well the each overclocks. With little overclocking information on the new i5 and i7 chips, they are probably far from done with the max. But still to this day, the Phenom II shows the best cost per an OC, not to mention that i-series Intel chips still lack the ability to make it into the 6ghz range once more.
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