The Truth Behind Winbond UTT (OCZ Vx)

[Diablo23RD]

I saw 5 differrence companies have have the sticks with UTT ic:
- TwinMOS, you can buy from newegg.com. I dont have this pair, fail to order one time.
- OCZ, VX or Value series (that what I have)
- KVR, only one shipment of Kingston have UTT chips, may be will not again.
- Geil, Ultra series, I got a pair too.
- Patriot, the IC rebranded to Liberty, I will have this pair later.
When I got a good Winny chips, I will do round up all the UTT I have, will see which better!

 

[crimedog]

Winbond does not plan to remake any of the true BH series and is unsure how long they will even make UTT.

that's the only reason i posted those two links

by the way... bh5 got a bad rap for it's double sided overclocking abilities almost solely because the nforce2 chip which cannot address single sided ram in 1T (cpc on). Throw those same sticks that can't do 220mhz cpc on with 3.3v in a dfi nf2 into a nf4 dfi and they'll fly

 

[Sentential]

that's the only reason i posted those two links

by the way... bh5 got a bad rap for it's double sided overclocking abilities almost solely because the nforce2 chip which cannot address single sided ram in 1T (cpc on). Throw those same sticks that can't do 220mhz cpc on with 3.3v in a dfi nf2 into a nf4 dfi and they'll fly

Yea anything over 2x256 in an AXP sux. belive me I tried briefly.

 

[crimedog]

sentential responded to my question at xs:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53645&page=6&pp=25
if anyone else is interested

 

[Sentential]

sentential responded to my question at xs:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=53645&page=6&pp=25
if anyone else is interested

Anytime bro

 

[rseven]

Okay, where do you find the TwinMos Speed Premium? All I see at Newegg are these:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-062&depa=1
I am figuring these are not the right ones.

 

[Highlander]

Seems the utt chips like the brainpower PCB... People have always said BH5 would be even better on Brainpower, now theres a decendant running on it and its flying....
Least we can see why OCZ didnt want this out in the open, they are loosing out to TwinMos atm big time

 

[man_utd]

Ch-5 was a completely different die size as bh-5...the comparison of crap bh-5 to ch-5 isn't exactly an accurate one.

 

[Sentential]

Okay, where do you find the TwinMos Speed Premium? All I see at Newegg are these:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-062&depa=1
I am figuring these are not the right ones.

No that is them. Thats the stuff people have been getting, look at the reviews LOL.

 

[rseven]

Thanks, Sen

 

[Sentential]

Thanks, Sen

Not a problem . Twinmos is the only reseller thats getting the good stuff via Winbond. Other guys are just rebinning it.

 

[TimoneX]

Okay, where do you find the TwinMos Speed Premium? All I see at Newegg are these:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-062&depa=1
I am figuring these are not the right ones.

That is NOT speed premium.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-062&depa=1

This is NOT speed premium, but most people report getting UTT chips. The TMII kits have 50D chips on all as far as I know.

This is speed premium:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-405&depa=1

They have 44D 4.4ns chips. These are the ones I got and have running at DDR530 1.5-2-2-5 1T.

I do not know how much practical difference there is between 5.0ns and 4.4ns chips. There's a guy around here getting both to do direct comparos. The cost difference is only a few bucks. The real stickler is availability. The TMSP modules disappear in minutes.

 

[HousERaT]

Okay, where do you find the TwinMos Speed Premium? All I see at Newegg are these:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-062&depa=1
I am figuring these are not the right ones.

I can confirm that they do have the UTT chips (I got mine yesterday) however these are the 50D chips whereas the TMSP chips have the 44D chips (so I've heard). I'll know more about the TMSP chips tomorrow as they'll be delivered then. Both seem to be monster overclockers with voltage.

 

[crimedog]

keep in mind that if you order the twinmos you're risking getting non-UTT chips

 

[rseven]

That is NOT speed premium.

This is NOT speed premium, but most people report getting UTT chips. The TMII kits have 50D chips on all as far as I know.

This is speed premium:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-405&depa=1

QUOTE]
But those aren't a dual channal kit. Does anyone sell the dual channel Speed premiums?

 

[Sentential]

keep in mind that if you order the twinmos you're risking getting non-UTT chips

You'd be suprised. Right now your odds are slim to none. But the premium Twinmos and you will get UTT

 

[HousERaT]

But those aren't a dual channal kit. Does anyone sell the dual channel Speed premiums?

I've not seen the TWSP in a dual set anywhere..... at least not yet.

 

[g0dM@n]

Guy who gets UTT: "Oh HI, Newegg. Thanks for your product. It works better than advertised!"

Guy who doesn't get UTT: "Oh HI, Newegg. I seem to have some trouble getting this RAM to work with my system. Could I possibly RMA it for a full refund? Thanks."

 

[TimoneX]

That is NOT speed premium.

This is NOT speed premium, but most people report getting UTT chips. The TMII kits have 50D chips on all as far as I know.

This is speed premium:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-218-405&depa=1

QUOTE]
But those aren't a dual channal kit. Does anyone sell the dual channel Speed premiums?

Nope. No kits, but the net effect is to just jack up shipping price. "Matched" kits have never made any difference in my experience, and as a matter of fact the two TMSP modules I ordered seperately are more closely matched than either of my OCZ kits were.

 

[kiljaden5]

You'd be suprised. Right now your odds are slim to none. But the premium Twinmos and you will get UTT

you mean chances of getting a non-UTT are slim to none with the non-SP ones?