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30% of win installs are still XP - I don't think they want to turn off that user base completely.
 
XP is great, their best OS imo. But it really is time to move on.

With 7, you only give up

XP has a better search function (hey little doggy!)
XP uses WAY fewer resources
XP has no UAC (not a problem in 7, but in 8 you can only turn it off 100% with a registry hack)
Can't rearrange files everywhere on the screen like you can in XP. (Very useful for organizational purposes, grouping like files and folders)

Pretty much it.

The search part sucks the most.
 
I am using 8.1 on all my computers, and I have to say I like it for the most part. It handles memory better than 7 did, also seems resources are always available. As for the UAC, in 8.1 it is accessible from the control panel.
Some people don't like change, but I have been a beta tester for Microsoft since the first version of windows. I was also a beta tester for Borlund at the time and they had just released Turbo-C++.
It has been a journey to get here, but well worth it. The first computer I programmed was an IBM 370 with 64K of ram. It was about 1 city block in size and we used punch cards and a terminal to communicate. That was when COBOL was the language of the future; the same one everyone thought was going to cause Y2K.

Have a great day...
 
Next time you fill out a Windows Beta report, greg2601, would you include a request to allow us to turn auto arrange OFF so we can move and group our files/folders anywhere on the screen [this is *crucial* for some people's for work] And a GUI Windows XP type Search program should be requested too. Maybe ask your friends to do the same when they fill out their Beta feedback reports.


 
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Microsoft's actions don't really matter, it's when they stop writing new software for XP that will hit us. Not being able to get a current browser & medial player is the main reason my old machines DO have XP instead of 98...

XP is all around a great OS. Rock solid like 2000, but somehow seems a little quicker on a capable machine. Anything with 256 MB - 2 GB of RAM I'd throw XP on with confidence, and just limit activity on untrusted internet sites.
 
Sure. A lot of the press have been reporting it with out the details so a lot of people have misunderstood.
 
I just caught Windows 8 missing a search hit yet again. I rebooted into Windows XP and it found what I was looking for, without indexing, fairly quickly.
 
c627627 said:
I just caught Windows 8 missing a search hit yet again. I rebooted into Windows XP and it found what I was looking for, without indexing, fairly quickly.
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I ditched Win 7's indexing crap. So useless, it never found any of my files. (It only indexed 400 files, I have over 500,000)

I use: http://locate32.cogit.net/

Great tool, never misses any files, and you can set-up key macros/bindings.
I set mine to "Windows key" + F2 :D
 
Yea I tested a few of them and found this one to be most useable: http://mythicsoft.com/page.aspx?page=download&type=agentransack

But it certainly is ridiculous that we have to resort to this. Windows 7/8 Search Engine is extremely powerful with lost of options. So powerful yet so useless. Not only is it unreliable but how many of us actually know what to type in to take advantage of it?

c627627 said:
Where is Windows 7's equivalent of this Windows XP screen:

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How about just covering the Windows XP basic searches in Windows 7, here's what to type in Windows 7 here:

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• Containing text: content:
• Date: date:
• Extension: *.exe [an example for *.exe extension]
• Size: size:
• System Folders: This option appears to be on by default on Windows 7.
• Hidden Files & Folders: This option appears to be on by default on Windows 7.

• Date Modified: modified:
• Date Created: created:
• Date Accessed: accessed:
• Date Before: before:8/25/2009
• Date After: after:8/25/2009
• Date Range: 8/1/09..8/25/09

• Type: kind:

• Size: size:
• Size limit: >50KB [or <50KB]
• Size Range: 50MB..70MB


• Subfolders on/off: This option appears to be on by default on Windows 7.



To look for something specific, be sure to add asterisk * before and after search term and * as an extension.

For example, if searching for a + sign:
redduc900 said:
Enclose the plus sign(s) within asterisks, for example *+*.*, *++*.*, *+++*.*, etc., and make sure to either add an asterisk as the extension, or include a known extension like *.jpg for example.
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/EDIT 2/

Code: 
Windows Search Advanced Query Syntax:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/technicalresources/advquery.mspx



Once you have Windows Search for Windows Vista or Windows XP, you might be wondering how you can be even more efficient when it comes to finding files and e-mail on your PC. Advanced Query Syntax (AQS) can help you do just that. Using AQS, you can quickly define and narrow your searches for even more targeted results.

You can narrow your searches using a variety of keywords, or search parameters, which can restrict your query to specific locations, specific file types or properties within those types, or specific "file kinds." File kinds are displayed at the top of the Windows Search Explorer, accessible by pressing the Windows Logo key + F.

To match a specific string literally, without it being interpreted as a keyword, you can use double quotation marks. Words in a search query entered between quotation marks are matched exactly, in the order they were entered.

The example tables below give you an overview of syntax that can be used with Windows Search 4.0, Windows Vista, or Windows Desktop Search 3.01 for Windows XP, including the properties that can be added to your search terms to narrow and refine your results.

	
author:name
author:patrick
Finds items with patrick in the author property.

	
author:(name)
author:(patrick hines)
Finds items with patrick in the Author property.

	
author:(name OR name)
author:(patrick OR bob)
Finds items with patrick or bob in the Author property.

	
author:name name
author:patrick bob
Finds items with patrick in the Author property and bob anywhere in the document.

	
from:name
from:patrick
Finds items with patrick in either fromName OR fromAddress, since "from" is a property name for both fromName and fromAddress.

	
before:date
before:10/9/2007
Finds items whose PrimaryDate field contains a date before 10/9/2007.

	
after:date
after:10/9/2007
Finds items whose PrimaryDate field contains a date after 10/9/2007.

	
has:attachment
report has:attachment
Finds items containing the word report that have attachments. Same as hasattachment:true

	
is:attachment
report is:attachment
Finds items that have attachments containing the word report. Same as isattachment:true



Numbers and ranges
To specify a date range, type the property followed by two dates. For example, type from:david sent:11/05/06..11/05/07. Windows Search recognizes all Windows date formats and also recognizes the following values:
Relative dates: Today, tomorrow, yesterday
Multi-word relative dates: week, next month, last week, past month, or coming year. The values can also be entered contracted, as follows: thisweek, nextmonth, lastweek, pastmonth, comingyear.
Days: Sunday, Monday ... Saturday
Months: January, February ... December

Size and date ranges
	Syntax	Results	

	
size:>50KB <70KB
Searches for files with a value in the Size between50 KB and 70 KB, excluding the end values.

	
size:>=50KB <=70KB
Searches for files with a value in the Size property between 50 KB and 70 KB, including the end values.

	
size:50KB..70KB
Same as size:>=50KB <=70KB

	
date:>2/7/05<2/10/05
Searches for a date in the Date property between the values 2/7/05 and 2/10/05, excluding the end dates.

	
date:>=2/7/05<=2/10/05
Searches for a date in the Date property between the values 2/7/05 and 2/10/05, including the end dates.

	
date:2/7/05 .. 2/10/05
Same as date:>=2/7/05<=2/10/05


Note: on Windows Vista and higher, search syntax supports dates in the user’s current calendar. A query can use any of the formats defined in their Regional Options.

Common file properties
The terms listed in the preceding table can be used with any of the following file properties. For example, to find e-mail from "patrick" that was sent in 2008, your query would look like this: kind:email author:patrick after:12/31/2007.
	To restrict by file type	Use	Example	

	
Communications
communications
kind:communications

	
Contacts
contacts
person
kind:person
kind:contacts

	
E-mail
email
kind:email

	
Instant Messenger conversations
im
kind:im

	
Meetings
meetings
kind:meetings

	
Tasks
tasks
kind:tasks

	
Notes
notes
kind:notes

	
Documents
docs
kind:docs

	
Music
music
song
kind:music
kind:song

	
Pictures
pics
pictures
kind:pics
kind:pictures

	
Videos
videos
kind:videos

	
Folders
folders
kind:folders

	
Folder name
foldername
foldername:mydocs

	
Programs
programs
kind:programs

	
Recorded TV
tv
kind:tv

	
Link
link
kind:link

	
Journal entry
journal
kind:journal



To restrict by file store
If you use multiple e-mail accounts and you want to limit a query to either Microsoft Office Outlook or Outlook Express, you can use the store: indicator to narrow your search scope.
	Store	Use	Example	

	
Files
file
store:file

	
Offline Files
csc
store:csc

	
Outlook
mapi
store:mapi

	
Outlook Express
outlookexpress
store:outlookexpress


Properties for file type: All
	Property	Use	Example	

	
Title
title, subject, about
title:manager

	
Status
status
status:active

	
Date
date
date:lastweek

	
Date modified
datemodified, modified
modified:lastweek

	
Importance
importance, priority
importance:high

	
Size
size
size:>50MB

	
Deleted
deleted,isdeleted
isdeleted:true

	
Is attachment
isattachment
isattachment:false

	
To
to, toname
to:johnsmith

	
Cc
cc, ccname
cc:david

	
Company
company
company:adventure-works

	
Category
category
category:business

	
Keywords
keywords
keywords:sports

	
Album
album
album:greatest

	
File name
filename, file
filename:2006hits

	
Genre
genre
genre:jazz

	
Author
author, by
author:david

	
Folder
folder, under, path
folder:adminstration

	
Ext
ext, fileext
ext:.rtf

	
Tags
tag, keyword
tag:personal

	
Type
type
type:image



Properties for file type: Contact
	Property	Use	Example	

	
Job title
jobtitle
jobtitle:manager

	
IM address
imaddress
imaddress:[email protected]

	
Assistant's phone
assistantsphone
assistantsphone:555-1212

	
Assistant name
assistantname
assistantname:roberto

	
Profession
profession
profession:accountant

	
Nickname
nickname
nickname:louis

	
Spouse
spouse
spouse:susana

	
Business city
businesscity
businesscity:redmond

	
Business postal code
businesspostalcode
businesspostalcode:98052

	
Business home page
businesshomepage
businesshomepage:[url]www.adventure-works.com[/url]

	
Callback phone number
callbacknumber
callbacknumber:882-8080

	
Car phone
carphone
carphone:555-1212

	
Children
children
children:anna

	
First name
firstname
firstname:maria

	
Last name
lastname
lastname

	
Home fax
homefax
homefax:555-1212

	
Manager's name
manager
manager:carlos

	
Pager
pager
pager:882-8080

	
Business phone
businessphone
businessphone:555-1212

	
Home phone
homephone
homephone:555-1212

	
Mobile phone
mobilephone
mobilephone:882-8080

	
Office
officelocation
officelocation:red/101

	
Anniversary
anniversary
anniversary:yesterday

	
Birthday
birthday
birthday:tomorrow



Properties for file type: Communications (e-mail, appointments)
	Property	Use	Example	

	
From
from, organizer
from:simon

	
Received
received, sent
sent:yesterday

	
Subject
subject, title
subject:budget

	
Has attachment
hasattachment, hasattachments
hasattachment:true

	
Attachments
attachments, attachment
attachment:presentation.ppt

	
Bcc
bcc, bccname
bcc:michael

	
Bcc address
bccaddress, bcc
bccaddress:[email protected]

	
Cc address
ccaddress, cc
ccaddress:[email protected]

	
Follow-up flag
flagstatus
flagstatus:followup
flagstatus:unflagged
flagstatus:completed

	
To address
toaddress, to
toaddress:[email protected]

	
Due date
duedate, due
due:10/15/2008

	
Read
read, isread
isread:false

	
Is completed
iscompleted
iscompleted:true

	
Incomplete
incomplete
incomplete:true

	
Has flag
hasflag, isflagged
hasflag:false

	
Duration
duration
duration:>120



Properties for file type: Calendar
	Property	Use	Example	

	
Recurring
isrecurring
recurring
isrecurring:true
recurring:true

	
Organizer
organizer, by, from
organizer:jonas

	
Location
location
location:calgary



Properties for file type: Documents
	Property	Use	Example	

	
Comments
comments
comments:excellent

	
Last saved by
lastsavedby
lastsavedby:josh

	
Document manager
documentmanager
documentmanager:jonas

	
Revision number
revisionnumber
revisionnumber:4a

	
Date last printed
datelastprinted
datelastprinted:yesterday

	
Slide count
slides
slides:>20



Properties for file type: Music
	Property	Use	Example	

	
Bit rate
bitrate
bitrate:>150kbps

	
Artist
artist, by
artist:U2

	
Year
year
year:1977..1987

	
Album
album
album:"greatest hits"

	
Genre
genre
genre:rock

	
Lyrics
lyrics
lyrics:"happy birthday to you"

	
Track
#, track
track:12

	
Year
year
year:>1980<1990



Properties for file type: Picture
	Property	Use	Example	

	
Camera make
cameramake
cameramake:nikon

	
Camera model
cameramodel
cameramodel:eclipse

	
Dimensions
dimensions
dimensions:8x10

	
Orientation
orientation
orientation:landscape

	
Date taken
taken
datetaken
taken:last
datetaken:6/12/2006

	
Width
width
width:33

	
Height
height
height:66

	
Flash mode
flashmode
flashmode:no flash



Properties for file type: Recorded TV
	Property	Use	Example	

	
Broadcast date
broadcastdate
broadcastdate:2005

	
Channel number
channel
channel:7

	
Closed captioning
closedcaptioning
closedcaptioning:true

	
Date released
datereleased
datereleased:2007

	
Episode name
episodename
episodename:zeppo



Properties for file type: Video
	Property	Use	Example	

	
Name
name
subject
name:vacation
subject:hawaii

	
Ext
Ext
filext
ext:wma	
filext:wma



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I have an old PC and an old laptop. Both have the original XP Product Keys in the back (or side). They both activated on the first try. But having used Win 7 for a while now I find XP a bit awkward. Didn't think so when there was no 7. Don't see any point hanging on to XP unless you originally got it with your computer.
 
I would have thought so except; After helping with a roomies pc, it needed 139 updates and had no av whatsoever, now the stupid thing says "you may be a victim of software piracy", when I know and he knows it was bought brand new. It actually did that during the update process itself and said we could buy win 7 for $150. I bumped his ram to 2gigs from, get this, 256mb-lol, and when his used 2.4ghz dual core processor shows up (he has a 1.8 now), we'll also put win 7 64 in. Needless to say I need to stop helping complete retards who own pc's. I could remove the annoying and permanent nag wgatray thing but just more work.
I see no point in keeping xp unless you are either lazy or it is simply not possible to get win7. Undoubtedly MSE will sooner or later stop working in xp as well.
 
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You are looking at it from the point of view of having only one OS. Why have only one? Some of us make relatively small SSD partitions and keep WinXP installed on one and have Win7 or Win8 on another one. That way when, (not if), when something goes wrong, we can reboot into WinXP and deal with it. Not to mention having the ability to use old hardware and software with a simple reboot into WinXP, if we need to.
 
habbajabba said:
I see no point in keeping xp unless you are either lazy or it is simply not possible to get win7. Undoubtedly MSE will sooner or later stop working in xp as well.
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Well here is a point you may have missed. If you have multiple machines using xp, then to move to another Win OS is going to cost you $100 a machine ($1000 for all my machines). You don't get $1000 worth of value if you are only using the machines to do basic tasks like word processing and spreadsheet and some surfing and making a bunch of power point slides or picture albums for grandma.

It's pretty annoying that M$ created such a holey OS that it has to be security patched in the thousands and still its full of flaws as yet undiscovered. Whats even more amazing is the number of patches for 7 and 8 still flowing out like sticky goo.
 
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c627627 said:
You are looking at it from the point of view of having only one OS. Why have only one? Some of us make relatively small SSD partitions and keep WinXP installed on one and have Win7 or Win8 on another one. That way when, (not if), when something goes wrong, we can reboot into WinXP and deal with it. Not to mention having the ability to use old hardware and software with a simple reboot into WinXP, if we need to.
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Exactly, it is much harder to fix 7 and 8 with their hidden partitions.
 
The April date is fast approaching - better get your updates before they start showing the message - its all over, upgrade or be left behind....
 
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