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You know, I've not heard enough about Excavator to know what it brings. Does anyone have any details or links that I can read?
I think I have to upgrade, since I overclocked my FX my power bill went through the roof for the last month..... Mind you, that could be because I got a bar fridge too but you know
Any excuse to upgrade right?
Even though in the recent years central processing units (CPUs) from Advanced Micro Devices were competitive on the mainstream markets, the company virtually ceased to compete for high-end desktop systems. Although we will see higher-performance AMD's microprocessors with Piledriver cores this year, the company will only truly introduce something radically better with Steamroller generation of chips, which are due in 2013 - 2014 timeframe.
According to a report from VR-Zone web-site, which cites sources with knowledge of AMD's plans, "there will be substantial changes in both cores and system architecture from Steamroller onwards, that should help make AMD competitive closer to the top". Some executives from AMD have reportedly acknowledged low instructions-per-clock (IPC) performance of the Bulldozer micro-architecture, something that clearly affected overall performance of AMD's latest chips.
While no exact details about the improvements of the Steamroller family of microprocessors are known, it is expected that both mainstream and high-performance platforms featuring Steamroller-class processing engines will support new technologies, such as PCI Express 3.0, more DDR3 memory channels, better integration between CPU and GPU chips and other improvements.
What should be kept in mind is that AMD's very first code-named Kaveri accelerated processing units with Steamroller x86 cores that will become available in 2013 will not feature fully-fledged Steamroller cores, but something better than Piledriver, but less advanced than the Steamroller cores found in the next-gen server and desktop platforms. AMD's current plans to not include Steamroller-class high-performance CPUs for next year, hence, the company will only be able to get back to high-end CPU-centric systems earlier than in 2014.
Another important factor that should be considered is that the Steamroller-based central processing units for high-performance servers and desktops [due in very late 2013 or in 2014] will compete not against Intel's current-generation or next-generation processors, but against server offerings based on Haswell and desktop offerings powered by Rockwell/Broadwell, which will be made using 22nm and 14nm process technologies, respectively.
In the meantime, boosting efficiency of heterogeneous computing in general as well as heterogeneous multi-core "Fusion" chips in particular will be the two main tasks for AMD. The company's next-generation discrete Radeon HD "Sea Islands" family of chips as well as future-generations of APUs code-named Kaveri and Kabini will feature numerous HSA [heterogeneous systems architecture]-related enhancements in addition to better-performing graphics and x86 cores.
Right now there around 200 apps that can be accelerated by stream processing units of GPUs, but several years from now that number will increase and the compute performance of GPU cores will be critical for success on the mass market. Still, x86 performance clearly remains an important factor, but the breakthrough in that direction may occur only in two years down the road.
i see a lot of hate around the 8120.. which i cant really see if its stupidity or blasphemi.. with a small clock it works better than a i5 2500k for gaming knowing that its was only phys score it lacked from the i5.. and well the price is just alot better.. i paid less money and got more when clocked.. no matter if you clock the intel i5 or not the amd value is higher and it WONT bottleneck in any game so far.. im running BF3 ultra with a 560ti (which is know not to be able) once again few tweaks for less money and you got urself a lovely rig just my opinion
Pft, I'd be seriously surprised if they haven't gone with DDR4 by 2014. DDR introduces some fairly significant benefits running 2133–4266 MT/s compared to DDR3's 800–2133, lower voltages and topology change discarding dual, tripple and quad channel memory in favor of point-to-point where each channel in the memory controller is connected to a single module (details shamlessly ripped from Wikipedia) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR4_SDRAM
This would involve some significant changes to the integrated memory controller. As such I expect Piledriver to be the last architecture to support AM3+ and I'll replace my existing chip then. I'll try hold off to 2014 before my next majot system upgrade (mainboard, CPU & RAM). The document doesn't go into enough detail to cause any real interest I'm afraid. Smoke and mirrors, the only major change I now very likely is DDR4.
I agree entirely. Very happy with my current chip although in many area's its slower than my older Phenom II X6 was however in general it feel a lot snapper. Probably has more to do with it supporting DDR2133 than anything else
Is that upgrade bug biting yet dude? Mind you, you're the smart one, managing to wait until PD is released..... On the other hand I needed to replace my mainboard and PSU, and figured a new CPU would go nicely with it..... Then I wanted some nice DDR2133 RAM, I'd already replaced the case..... Before I knew it very little of my original pc remained
Lol, I just love seeing cores 1-8 listed..... I'm hoping they've a 5 or 6 module Piledriver available. I'd love to see it displaying 12 cores
I'll see no real difference between anything at this point.... I just like seeing the useless additional cores.... I think I must be going nuts or something
Yup, me too. There's more fun in upgrading and playing around with the hardware than in actually playing games on it.
what i love most is to buy a decent but cheap amd cpu and butt**** clock it as allways an eat intel for breakfast my best mate is a angry intel lover who cant figure why im raping him in Benchies
No wonder in don't see you on BF3...