Blackice Extreme vs. Heater core

[rivercom9]

Whats the better performing rad? The Blackice Extreme or a normal old Heatercore? They look similar but the prices are way different.

 

[racecar12]

hands down the heatercore will outperforum the blackice rads.

 

[customrig]

does the heatercore have mounting holes for 120mm fans or do you have to drill them

 

[rivercom9]

I need to make a shroud for the HC.

 

[racecar12]

I need to make a shroud for the HC.

I have started doing some thing different with getting air across the rad. I have my case designed with a low pressure/vaccuum with all of my fans exhausting from the case and the rad is the main sorce of air intake. That eliminates the need for shrouding.

 

[killersushi]

Well, we're talking black ice Xtreme? It does rock like hell, don't underestimate it just because it's small in size. I dare say it can keep up with most heatercores.

 

[racecar12]

Well, we're talking black ice Xtreme? It does rock like hell, don't underestimate it just because it's small in size. I dare say it can keep up with most heatercores.

Don't get me wrong, I am sure the bleck ice extreme performs well from some of the temps I have seen other people getting. I have not seen the extreme in a comparison yet, but have seen the regular blackice loose badly to the heatercore.

I do know for a fact that a heater core has much more suface area to disipate heat. That setup will soon be on my P4 1.6a@2400Mhz. You can also see my thoughts of an extreme rad in my sig

 

[Bubba]

Danger Den is supposed to be doing a comparison of the two pretty soon.I was told that the HC performs better though.

 

[rivercom9]

Better performance for less $$$. Hmmm....sounds like AMD vs. Intel, but thats another debate. The only downside is that the HC is much larger than the BlackIceX, so it may not be suitable for everyone.

 

[racecar12]

Better performance for less $$$. Hmmm....sounds like AMD vs. Intel, but thats another debate. The only downside is that the HC is much larger than the BlackIceX, so it may not be suitable for everyone.

That heatercore I have is for a 1987 Ford escort w/ air. It is only 17.99 at autozone. Yeah you have to do a little mod and the cost for fittings but still thats 20 bucks of excellent cooling. Sometimes you just have to be creative on mounting rads. Heck I mounted rads underneath w/system on casters, on either sides of the case, and soon to have a front mount rad(that escort rad) in my 4q tower case.

 

[rivercom9]

Do you have to use barbs on the HC's or can you leave the stock fittings on them and then connect them to the hose?

 

[Hoot]

It'll be hard stretching that tubing over those 3/4" pipes. Some heater core radiators come with smaller pipes and you might be able to stretch the tubing over them though.

Hoot

 

[rivercom9]

So using barbs are only for ease of use and not required or do they make for a better seal?

 

[Hoot]

Even with barbs, I put a hose clamp on each tube. With just straight tubing, the hose clamp should give you a reliable seal as well. Remember, there is not a lot of pressure in these systems.

Hoot

 

[rivercom9]

So hoot, when is your article on the WB shootout going to come out?

 

[Hoot]

Now that I have arrived at my Hotel room in Chicago, after driving 8 hours today, I suppose I should have worked on it tonight, but I'm too "Strung out from the road" to do more than reply to threads. Perhaps after bashing my brain for 8 hours in a classroom tomorrow, I'll feel more like it.

Hoot

 

[The Highlander]

I did a custom radiator that costed me 100 bucks.. its 5"x10" all copper.. kind like the big momma... but a bit bigger...

Custom built that is why it costed me so much!!!

Anyways... A car rad could be good... I dont know.. I still have 2 tranny oil coolers in aluminum... but I see no diff when I install them...

 

[rivercom9]

Wouldnt having an all copper radiator be not as effective as a part copper part aluminum (Copper tubes and aluminum fins)? The basis for my argument being that the copper absorbs more heat but its harder to dissipate heat from copper than from aluminum. So, the copper tubes absorb more heat than aluminum tubes and having aluminum fins over copper ones means that the heat absorbed by the copper tubes is dissipated more quickly into the ambient. Is this right?

 

[racecar12]

I did a custom radiator that costed me 100 bucks.. its 5"x10" all copper.. kind like the big momma... but a bit bigger...

Custom built that is why it costed me so much!!!

Anyways... A car rad could be good... I dont know.. I still have 2 tranny oil coolers in aluminum... but I see no diff when I install them...

I also made a cusotm rad out of two copper heater cores<edit transmission coolers>. Total size is 13"x17" and found a nice 180 degree hose to connect them together. The rad covers one side of my case and the only fan is a 120mm 108cfm sunon mounted exhausting on the oposite side of the case. You can see my case in my sig.

 

[The Highlander]

Aluminum and copper...

Its always better to have copper.. it transfers more.. If you have aluminum fins and copper base, the copper base will heat up more than with copper all...

Thermal transfer for copper is 401J/molK
And Al is 237J/molK
which means its almost double...