Don't worry guys, MW2 has mouse support!!!

[rainless]

I think its a joke and they wont be getting my money.

I think the PC market is bigger than some of you guys give it credit for. The PC market for BF:BC1 was 45%.

They will get a sh**-ton of money. And the PC market is SMALLER than you give it credit for... MUCH smaller.

They've already got 2.4 million fully paid pre-orders for the game... and that's just for the PS3 and Xbox.

That's more than the sum total of PC versions COD4 has sold to date.

And they will probably also sell a record number of copies of the PC version. (maybe not as many as COD4... but a hell of a lot.)

I understand what there is to dislike about Modern Warfare 2... but let's not get DELUSIONAL.

 

[ratbuddy]

I just went poking around the IW forums. Awesomest set of rules ever:

In addition to the DON'Ts the following internet memes, fads and content are considered banned and will get you banned instantly.

- Rick Roll
- In before the lock. (IBTL, IB4L, etc.)
- Cool story, Bro.
- Let me google that for you. (LMGTFY)
- Face Palm
- Porn of any kind.
- Gore of any kind.
- Shock images of any kind.
- LOL WUT
- Any iteration of the usage of "fail".
- Riots/Forum Wars
- Discuss and post links concerning hacks, exploits and cracks. (Email or PM us, don't spread them.)
- +1 (Or any other number alone.)
- Any iteration of the usage of "O RLY"
- Lockerz.com Advertising

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These rules are guaranteed to be updated as new internet douchebaggery arises. So be sure to check often as warnings will be scarce to non-existent.

Bans are permanent.

 

[Omsion]

They will get a sh**-ton of money. And the PC market is SMALLER than you give it credit for... MUCH smaller.

They've already got 2.4 million fully paid pre-orders for the game... and that's just for the PS3 and Xbox.

That's more than the sum total of PC versions COD4 has sold to date.

And they will probably also sell a record number of copies of the PC version. (maybe not as many as COD4... but a hell of a lot.)

I understand what there is to dislike about Modern Warfare 2... but let's not get DELUSIONAL.

I disagree that MW2 PC will get a ton of sales. It really is getting a bad rap everywhere I see - negativity has been overwhelming. Sure, the corners of the internet aren't representative of the world at large...but when the response everywhere I see is this negative...you do have to think about how this is overflowing into the real world.

Of course its a given the console versions will do well.

 

[TheGreySpectre]

Wow no one has complained that they're asking $59.99 for a PC Game?!?

Hey rainless, do have that pre-order source, I'd love to see the percentage of pc vs. 360 editions..

While I don't like that they are raising trying to raise the price on the PC version I can't say it would be unfair. While I like paying less, consoles do charge more and the price on PC games has been static for a very long time. I don't like it, but paying the same price as everyone else is not something I can really complain about, espcially given that usually PC versions are more feature rich.


especially with all the other crap they are doing with this game, they are giving me more than enough reasons to complain and not purchase it without raising the price.

 

[shard]

While I don't like that they are raising trying to raise the price on the PC version I can't say it would be unfair. While I like paying less, consoles do charge more and the price on PC games has been static for a very long time. I don't like it, but paying the same price as everyone else is not something I can really complain about, espcially given that usually PC versions are more feature rich.


especially with all the other crap they are doing with this game, they are giving me more than enough reasons to complain and not purchase it without raising the price.

The reason most console games cost more is due to royalties to Microsoft or Sony and Nintendo. In the case of PCs, this is simply not the case. It is pure greed here.

 

[hajalie24]

If they released a beta maybe people could see if their new way of matchmaking would work. Now most people aren't going to buy it, including me. If I saw that everything worked great from a beta I probably would.

 

[Neural Net]

LaGgY_42o: What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

Wait a second, did we travel back in time several years? If anyone thinks that 100ms ping is good enough for an FPS then they are stupid. At the very most you should be joining servers with no more than 40 ping for a smooth experience and not ruin it for anyone else. Matchmaking is no substitute for dedicated servers.

 

[deed]

Wait a second, did we travel back in time several years? If anyone thinks that 100ms ping is good enough for an FPS then they are stupid. At the very most you should be joining servers with no more than 40 ping for a smooth experience and not ruin it for anyone else. Matchmaking is no substitute for dedicated

I get around 130ms on some xbox 360 matches for some games and never notice an issue at all...... seems the same even at 20ms.

 

[Neural Net]

I get around 130ms on some xbox 360 matches for some games and never notice an issue at all...... seems the same even at 20ms.

Perhaps you don't notice, but that doesn't mean that others don't either. Playing UT3 for example I notice big differences vs players with pings from 40 to 100+.

 

[Sydney]

Wait a second, did we travel back in time several years? If anyone thinks that 100ms ping is good enough for an FPS then they are stupid. At the very most you should be joining servers with no more than 40 ping for a smooth experience and not ruin it for anyone else. Matchmaking is no substitute for dedicated servers.

Some people are not blessed enough to be located within 1000 miles from the nearest server

I consider anything under 100ms a great ping.

 

[SuperDave1685]

I think IW needs to do a quadruple face palm.

Epic fail. Epic.

 

[Neural Net]

Some people are not blessed enough to be located within 1000 miles from the nearest server

I consider anything under 100ms a great ping.

That sucks, but 100ms is acceptable for any other type of game. It's when it comes to twitch fps games then it can be problematic.

 

[lordkosc]

That sucks, but 100ms is acceptable for any other type of game. It's when it comes to twitch fps games then it can be problematic.

indeed, i dont play tf2 / left4dead unless my ping on that server is less than 100. its just too drastic a feel , especially when sniping. i can't imagine any FPS with a ping over 100 being good to snipe in.

another chart... for some reason i can't see the other one posted...

 

[Rich'[ard]]

Right, but that doesn't mean you are going to pirate it. The guy I was quoting seemed to be saying something like "if I can play online with an illegal copy, why would I buy it?"

from your earlier quote, nah not me personally.
i buy games if i like them...if i think they'll last me a while. (usually games with long campaigns - eg. Obilvion...GTA IV, or multipalyer games which will make the purchase worth it - COD4.

but don't you think this will give 'those kind of people' even more incentive to pirate the game?...i mean, since there's pretty much no multiplayer, all they will want to play is the single player...which in their mind, probably isn't worth $100 (here in Australia anyway).

if this game doesn't have a mulitplayer system like COD4 i guess i'll just be renting it overnigiht and see if i can finish it in 1 or 2 sittings.

just look at the price difference for Australians in the above post...it's crazy lol.

EDIT: i'd just like to put something else out there...
i'd say most gamers live in America, for COD4 anyway.
with this new match-making system, as i understand, everybody searching for a game will be put together and one will act as the host correct?
this will suck for anybody outside America (ping wise). of course there will be Australia hosts, but that means it'll pretty much be impossible to play through match making if the host and other players are from different countries.
imagine people in America trying to play off my 500kb/s download 100kb/s upload, 200ms ping speeds...or the other way around, imagine me trying to play off an American host, i'd probably get a ping of about 250ms...which means i will be dead before i turn the corner (on my screen) or when i go for a head shot, the bullet actually misses the opponent as they have moved an extra step forward.

 

[SteveLord]

Now those who are extremely hardcore into the PC versions of Call of Duty may find another slightly disappointing bit of news to do with Modern Warfare 2 – players won't have access to the console for advanced settings and options.

Vince Zampella of Infinity Ward confirmed the news in a community chat when a player asked if it'd be possible to change the FOV, weapon damage, perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, etc.

Zampella simply replied, "We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it."

Other interesting Q&A bits from Mackey McCandlish include:

Mackey-IW: Players do not control who hosts.

Mackey-IW: Only players capable of hosting will be host.

Mackey-IW: Games cap out at 9v9. The software has great latency tolerance. See above!

Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

 

[disk11]

How many people do they think have Internet connections that can support multiplayer? Fastest consumer connection I've seen in my area for upstream is 512k, and I bet its not much different anywhere else unless you have FIOS or something to compete against it.

 

[Rich'[ard]]

i found a new trailer...(hopefull it's new)

at least the campaign looks excellent...but it still won't make up for the not-as-good multiplayer setup, or the high price...
i guess i want the game, but only when it's on sale for $25 or so..
i can wait lol.

 

[Theocnoob]

That sucks, but 100ms is acceptable for any other type of game. It's when it comes to twitch fps games then it can be problematic.

I take massive massive massive offence to anybody claiming 100ms is acceptable ping. I don't care what you're playing.

If it's an RTS, it's remotely acceptable. It still sucks.

In a FPS, I don't like to get anything over 60.

 

[SeanBest]

Exactly. When I refresh my server list there are usually 100+ games under 40 ping for me, I RARELY even look at the servers with higher ping.

 

[Impar]

Greetings!

D2D, Impulse and GamersGate refuse to sell MW2 due to the inclusion of SteamWorks:
http://kotaku.com/5398259/online-retailers-refusing-to-sell-modern-warfare-2