Thanks RG, I really appreciate all the help, and patience with something as tedious as teaching someone how to overclock. this has proven to be a very difficult task.
Ive definitely been working with lots of different LLC's. I also checked out some CPUID validations other users have been posting on there 1100t's and noticed a lot of them have been using lower multipliers with higher FSB's to get to the lower Vcores, while still maintaining 4+GHz.
I tried this 225MHz FSB and got a very stable overclock with slightly better numbers(about a minute after i posted my last screenshot of CPUID, Max Vcore went from 1.54v to 1.55v, the one im posting now was after 9+ hours of P95 blend with no failed workers(it has remained at 1.54v for over 9 hours). I know its a miniscule improvement, but an improvement nonetheless.) Should I try higher FSB with lower multipliers in order to keep the Vcore down and still work with the LLC?
I'm going to leave these settings and try different LLC's for now, but I'm really looking to get it in the high 1.4v range. The board is very picky about the FSB numbers its willing to boot. Memory appears to be exactly where i want it, no?
I appreciate the kind word about patience alright enough, but on the other hand I am torn by not being somewhat blunt about that I guess maybe 'class' of motherboard. They just don't cut it for me.
I think that cpu 'should' be stable at 4.1Ghz at just about 1.475 Vcore. You even with your persistence and upping FSB and dropping multiplier will never get there on that board. The LLC does not work correctly and the LLC voltage *overshoot* is just too great and then too variable to let you get what would be the best Vcore action.
You are having to do your 'learning' to overclock on a board that is working azz-backwards. 0% LLC should mean that LLC does not move the voltage upward under load at all. That is by definition of what LLC is in the first place.
Say you had had the best board made with the 890FX chipset which was the CHlV by Asus. Remember the 990FX boards are out and in my opinion the CHV by Asus is the best. I digress. If you were using CHlV 890FX board you would set a Vcore. Run Prime 95 Blend and if you set 1.45Vcore to the cpu you would look and see how much the Vcore fell "below" your 1.45Vcore setting and choose and LLC setting of say Medium, High, Ultra High and I cannot remember the last one, but it is something like Extremely Ultra High.
One of those settings would almost to the hundredth of a Volt raise the Loaded Vcore BACK up to what you set in bios. None of that % stuff that seems good. None of that % stuff that is azz-backwards from what LLC should do. Which is raise the LOADED Vcore BACK to what is set in bios when the processor is under load.
But the board you have is (forget being backwards in setting) adding Vcore to the CPU in such an over-voltage type of manner that you cannot get the Vcore down as far as it should be able to have happen. Good boards by any manufacturer should not have LLC that acts like that. My CHV does not act stupid even when LOADED to hale and back with a power hungry FX processor on it. I can choose a 'named' setting that will almost replace exactly the difference of LOST Vcore under load to just about the hundredth of that lost Vcore when loaded. That is 'good' working LLC. Load Line Calibration. Load Line ADJUSTMENT if you will. Calibrate or to "adjust".
Any brand of good AMD or even Intel motherboard that has LLC should work pretty close to how I described in the paragraph above. No matter who makes the board.
So is my "patience" really a good service to you or a dis-service? I am wondering. So I am being that 'blunt' by describing how a good board should act. Your current board does not and never will work as it should. I expect that you will always have to put more Vcore to the processor than is 'truly' necessary. Is your current voltage just TOO TOO dang high? NO it is not. You are now P95 Blend stable for hours. There are many in these forums with stuff that will not nearly run P95 Blend that long stabily. Their CPU Temps get too high. Yours are not too too high. You can get anywhere close to 4.0/1 Ghz stable and quit working so hard with a board that is never going to as it 'really' should. You are very much close enough to enjoy your computer some.
You have shown great initiative and forebearnace in doing things on your on. You have the idea down pat for a board that is not as it should be. You have done good mostly on your own and doing much of your own searching. That is somethng few that come for help can or will do. I commend you hghly for that inner ability.
Tweak it all you want to now. Up FSB drop multiplier or whatever, but the hard truth is you likely will never get to the place I would prefer to be with a board and appropriately working LLC. You have the idea of what to do with what you have. Tweak all you want but know that as long as you have not more temps than you do now and the Vcore stays at no more than 1.55, heck man call it a day and use your rig. No sort of program will ever load your system down like 9 hours of P95 Blend. Or let me say that a little more accurately...92% of the programs that most people use will n0t load their system to the extent that P95 Blend does. That is why we test stability with P95 Blend. Load it to hale and back and if it passes for extended periods of time, then we can feel pretty confident the system should be stable in average daily use.
You have it close; oh so very close. I would use it and know in my educated heart what to look for in a WELL working board the next time. Luck to you man.
RGone...ster