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takiwa

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I am interested in setting up an AMD system for the purpose of video creation/editing, DVD's, VCD's, etc. I would like some suggestions as to the size of the processor I would need, RAM or DDR, motherboard, etc. I am not that familiar with AMD, so I thought I would ask before I bought something that wouldn't fit the bill. I would have a budget of around $200-250, give or take, for the CPU, mobo, and RAM/DDR...what can I get for this amount, and what is the minimum I need for the work this machine would be doing? Any replies are welcome...but I would ask that if you give your opinion on a chip/mobo/RAM/DDR, please explain why so I can learn... :)

TIA, takiwa
 

Dylruss

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Are you planning on overclocking with this system at all? The problem with this is I think that you might have slim pickings with your budget. I have a Soyo K7ADA mb (a great board) and it was about 50 bones. The processor and mostly the DDR were the ones that really cost.:eek:

Pc 2100 ddr memory might be great for you. And I would even consider a nice morgan core 1.3 Gig duron, these are nice chips, great for overclocking and CHEAP!
 
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takiwa

takiwa

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yes, I will o/c, to get the most for my money...but not to the point where I have to spend even more to support the overclock (like super cooling, and case mods, etc.)...I just want a nice, reasonably fast rig, that will rip through video files and the like pretty quick. I have nice speed w/ my Celly, but for work like that, I am disappointed with the results I get, and from what I have heard, an AMD would be faster for that.

EDIT: maybe something around a gig or so, with at least 256Mbs RAM/DDR...doesn't have to be an XP, just want to spend only what I have to for a machine to do the work I need it to do...
 

Cluster

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For you budget I'd recommend XP1800+,K7S5A, 512MB PC2100

Pricewatch Prices:

CPU: XP1800+ $102
OR
CPU: Duron 1.3 $70
Mobo: ECS K7S5A $51
RAM: 512MB PC2100 $109

Total
Duron Rig: $230
XP Rig: $262

For video editing, you'll probably be better with the XP because it's faster, and it has more cache. You can go with 256MB of ram, but you'd notice a great difference with 512MB. To tell the truth if your doing any kind of serious video editing, you'll want something more powerful.

A more perferable setup would be dual durons, 1GB of ram and a Asus A7M266-D. This setup will run about 550 bucks.
 

Dylruss

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Well for that price I would consider a a nice new duron with some pc 2100 ram (about 70 bones) for 256 meg of ram. And that Soyo board is good for the money.

That would be a great oc machine.


Edit: Cluster is right, I would just pay the extra 30 or so bones and go xp. That MB that he has mentioned is a good board so I hear.
 
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Yodums

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Hey takiwa, give yourself to the dark side huh?!

Takiwa perhaps maybe you can expand the budget to around 300 dollars just to make better use of an XP other than trying to cram none top of the line products in.

Taken from newegg.com

You can do this:

Epox 8KHA+ - 91.00 + 9.00 S/H = 100.00
Athlon XP 1600+ OEM - 98.00 + $6.95 S/H = 104.95
KINGMAX DDR333 PC-2700 256MB-OEM - 87.00 + 9.00 S/H = 96.00

Total = 300.95 Shipping included (Athlon XP 1600+ OEM)

AMD Athlon XP 1600+ Retail - 120.00 - Free Shipping = 120.00

Total = 316.00 Shipping included (Athlon XP 1600+ Retail)

I tried my best but like I said why cram for something your not getting back.

Catch me on MSN if you have questions Takiwa.
 

T'wolves

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If you are going to do video editing and stuff, I would think you would what a processor that isn't deficient in cache like the duron. Trying to find a cheaper XP, I think is a better bet.
my $.02
 

lonewolf1983

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look at either a low end XP or a duron 1.2+
ive run durons doing vid editing
more of a concern is getting 512 mb of ram
preferebly DDR

intel used to be good,but the AMD's rule since the intro of the athlon a while back
 

Yodums

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Intel would cost more out of his budget than AMD would.

He would have to buy a Northwood (The low 1.6a are about 160.00) or a P3-S (Your budget blown already), their motherboards are pretty expensive as well. For example a popular P4 board (IMHO the best): Abit TH7II - 146.00 Retail. Budget blown and you still have RDRam to cover for that so it's about 400.00

Yodums
 
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takiwa

takiwa

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well, I might could go $300, but the thing is I am building this system from the ground up...case, psu, DVD player, 40-60Gb HDD, etc...so I am looking at spending $500-600 for the whole thing. I want to do video ONLY on this machine, there will be no floppy, CD-ROM, network card, etc. This is the only purpose it will be used for, so that's why I don't want to spend an arm and a leg on it. Also, I chose AMD for 2 reasons...one, the price, and two, the fact that AMD can compress, encode, decode, etc. faster than the celly I have now. I am not looking for blazing speeds, but here's the deal. I can encode a 1:20:00 movie with DiVX in about 3:30 to 4 hours with my celly...a friend of mine running a Duron 900 (@1150, I think) and he can do the same movie w/ the same settings in about 2:30 to 3 hours...big time difference to me, but his chip is running 300+Mhz slower than mine! So, I figured I could put together a cheap box to do my editing/encoding, and use my celly for everything else...that's my thinking, anywho....
 

Greg M

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If I were building a system, with some future upgrade potential, on the cheap at Newegg, I would use the following:


EVERCASE E4252W005A, Intel P4 / AMD, 10-Bay, P4, Truely Screwless ATX MID Tower Case. BEIGE. W/ 1 Side Case Fan & 2 Removeable HD cages. Retail. *** No Power Supply. *** External: 4 X 5.25 and 2 X 3.50. Hidden: 4 X 3..50 (2 screwless removeable HD Cages). 2 x Front USB ports. 1 x side ball bearing fan with bracket. more info-> N82E16811127001 $22.00 $22.00


ECS K7S5A SiS® 735 SOCKET A MOTHERBOARD - RETAIL with On-Board LAN Port and Sound 5 PCI Slots, 1 4X AGP slot, 1 AMR slot. 2 DDR DIMM sockets and 2 DIMM sockets support (can not be used simultaneously). Two 184-pin DDR SDRAM (DDR200, DDR266) or Two 168-pin 3.3V SDRAM (PC100, PC133). Maximum: 1.0GB (DDR or SDRAM). Supports all AMD XP Processors. more info-> N82E16813135102 $52.00 $52.00


VISIONTEK Xtasy 5632 GEFORCE2 GTS-V 4X/2X 32MB DDR AGP - OEM
This VGA card offers high performance based on the GeForce2 GTS-V chipset and 32mb 256 bit DDR memory. Visiontek is the only Nvidia board partner to offer this card. Part# 72440.0 more info-> N82E16814129007 $48.00 $48.00


SPARKLE 300 WATTS ATX UL APPROVED POWER SUPPLY MODEL # FSP300-60BTVS - OEM AMD (Athlon XP 2100+) Approved & Intel Pentium 4 Ready - One Year Warranty more info-> N82E16817103412 $32.00 $32.00


AMD ATHLON XP 1800+/266 FSB PROCESSOR CPU - OEM 1800+/ 1.53GHz, AX1800DMT3C. The AMD Athlon XP processor with QuantiSpeed architecture powers the next generation in computing platforms, delivering extra performance for cutting-edge applications and an extraordinary computing experience. more info-> N82E16819103307 $113.00 $113.00


OCZ DDR RAM 512MB PC-2400 266HzOCZ266512 CAS 2.5 Performance DDR OEM, Lifetime Warranty. more info-> N82E16820146804 $138.00 $138.00


MAXTOR 40GB 7200RPM Model # 6L040J2 - OEM, DRIVE ONLY D740X Plus Series Ultra ATA133/100 2MB Cache Buffer <8ms Seek Time - 3 Year Manufacturer Warranty. 40.0gb 7200 rpm more info-> N82E16822140127 $78.00 $78.00


Dynatron DC1206BM-L610. New Silver Color w/ dense fins High - End Cooler w/ 5300 RPM Fan. Retail. Thermal Resistance: AMD:0.49°C/W. INTEL:0.59°C/W. AMD: K7(Socket A)---1.5/1.6/1.7GHZ/ XP 1900+. INTEL®:FC-PGA(Socket 370)---866/933MHZ and 1/1.26GHZ. V/A/W:DC12V/0.3A/3.6W. Air Flow:24.4 C.F.M Speed:5700RPM. Noise:40.0dBA. Weight:195gm. Dimensions(L*W*H). Fan:60*60*10(mm). Sink:61.9*63*36.2(mm) more info-> N82E16835114005 $7.00 $7.00

Subtotal » $490.00

I may be biased since networking is important to me. Another mobo option I am using is:

Gigabyte GA-7VTXE+,VIA KT266A chipset, ATA133 with Sound Socket A motherboard,5PCI ,3DDR DIMM, ATA133, AC97,BULK more info-> N82E16813128134 $89.00 $89.00

Subtotal » $527.00 + you get to take advantage of the AT133 on the Maxtor Drive listed above.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
 
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lonewolf1983

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for your price range i recommend u get a high end duron
1.2ghz is at a good price point atm

you will get the benefits of the old duron your friend has,plus the extra core speed,and the new durons SSE and hardware prefetch.

spend the money left over on more ram or a better motherboard
 

Dylruss

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I agree with lonewolf1983, spend money on the ram, that is where you can overclock well. You can go to traders outpost and get a 300 W. enermax psu, mb, and a 1700+ for just $199. My whole setup cost about $650 for the best ram and other stuff (GREAT VIDEO CARD).
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