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Samsung B best timings for latency

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dejo

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I have an 16GBx2 kit of Gskill XMP 4000 [email protected]. It seems that I am stuck at 4533 with 16-16-16-36-56 timings 1:1 but wont go anymore with any voltage I have attempted up to 1.65V. Even loosening the timings and dropping back to 2000fckl.
If I just wanted best timings for latency at XMP@4000mhz, which are the most important timings? zen-timings.png
 
At this point, not much more will help. Can still set a bit lower tRFC or some other timings but I guess that RTT settings will help the most. Try RttNom at RZQ/6 or 7, RttWr at RZQ/3 and RttPark RZQ/6 or 7. You can play some with these settings like one higher or lower and as long as auto settings aren't optimal then you can count on 3-4ns less. It may not help at all or won't boot at all so save your last best settings in profiles and count on clearing CMOS a couple of times.
You can probably set lower CL like 14/15 but at a much higher voltage. My 2x16GB TridentZ Royal 4400 CL17 for some reason has problems even boot at 4533 but at 4400 could run at 14-15-15 ... I don't remember the voltage but more than 1.6V.
 
Earlier bioses for my strix b550i gaming board I was lucky to get 4200 to boot. The later bioses I can boot at 15-15-15-36 @ 4533 but any more just fails to post.
Thanks for posting- your expertise has my utmost respect.
 
I'm using the same board for my 5700G. This is a bit weird, but with Ryzen 5000 (not APU) and Ryzen 4000, Crosshair VIII Impact was overclocking worse, from 1 to 2 memory ratios worse than the B550I Gaming. On 5700G, the Impact was slightly better, like 1 ratio higher to boot, but the stability was similar at 1:1. I had to make an RMA for the Impact and it takes 3 weeks already. I also could easier set a 5300+ 1:2 memory clock on Ryzen 4650G than 5700G. Anyway, I feel like ASUS could still tweak the BIOS for the B550I Gaming. The same BIOS release was for ATX mobos like B550 A/E/F/XE and it's not any special with the 5000 APU too.
As far as dual-rank is faster, then on 5000 APU I can't really see as high performance gain as on 5000 non-APU or 11th gen Intel. I guess it's related to the architecture which is closer to Ryzen 3000 and sadly has no improved latency like the Ryzen 5000 series. At the same memory clock, Ryzen 5900X has about 5-6ns less than the 5700G. On the other hand, 5000 APU can be pushed much higher at 1:1 ratio what brings latency to mid 50ns and bumps the bandwidth to 65GB/s+. If it could run at ~4800 1:1 as single rank Samsung B, then you could go down to ~45ns latency. I'm using Micron B with my 5700G as I needed 32GB and it goes up to 4933 CL18 1:1 what after some tweaking gives ~52ns latency and ~70GB/s+ bandwidth. This is the only setup on which I find Micron B better/faster than Samsung. In all other cases it only overclocks higher but doesn't provide high enough performance because sub-timings can't be tweaked as much as in Samsung IC.
 
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