I used to think it was crap, but I'm starting to believe it. When I first got my Opteron 1212 it walled at 300x10. I could accomplish this OC with stock volts (1.35) but I couldn't even get to 305x10 with 1.55 volts. It seemed that I would never get past 3Ghz. After running the computer at 3Ghz for a few months, including stress testing and folding, I decided to give it another shot last week. To my amazement, Vista booted at 310, 315, and 320 HTT requiring 1.475v at 320x10. It wasn't stable, but it posted and booted. I'm still not convinced that Vista hasn't contributed to this, because when I first installed Vista I couldn't get my system stable at stock. I'm not sure if Vista has a hardware "learning curve" or if I was successful at "burning in" my system. I'm certainly going to give burning in a chance, and I think I'll run my system at 305 or 310 for a while to see what happens.