Noob right here! I need help

[Sigur Ros]

No my parents will be helping me build this, but we really don't have anything about building a pc. I've been doing a lot of research and whatnot��

I don't think you have the right people on the job.
That's not intended as an insult, but building these things takes more than buying $2,000 worth of parts and just plugging them in.

Because I have built a few gaming rigs already, I would never have anyone build my systems for me... but... I would highly suggest you do so.

Your questions, which are all valid, have been a bit all over the place, and it's clear you don't know many of the basics.
They show us just how much of a novice you are at this (again, not an insult).

For the price you'll be paying for the parts you've listed.... you could get a very nice gaming machine pre-built.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts.
I fear, unless you have a friend who does this, you will regret the venture.

Good luck.

 

[Sigur Ros]

So you want an obsolete socket, chipset, and CPU? Why?
X99 is better if you want a high end system. I'm not convinced you need one though.

If you did go X99, the 5820K is $200 cheaper than the 4930K and gives you everything the 4930K does plus 3MB of extra cache. You only lose 12 PCIE lanes (28 down from 40) which is still enough for 3 way SLI/CFX.

Definitely do NOT buy X79 at this point. You're ripping yourself off for $200 on the CPU, you're not getting 6 SATA 3 on chipset, you're not getting M.2, you're not getting SATA express. It's a terrible, terrible idea. Terrible.

I'm starting to get concerned about you, Gabby. You didn't know what an SSD or an OS were, and you're coming up with your own parts lists? That's dangerous dude. You're an "At risk PC shopper"-- at risk of seriously ripping yourself off.

Please just tell us what you will use the PC for and how much you want to spend. We will take care of the rest.

She already said a future-proof gaming rig for $1000+

 

[Gabby1019]

I will be using my Pc for heavy editing and gaming. I draw a lot and I need something heavy to handle all that. And this is the video where I got the parts from.

 

[Theocnoob]

I will be using my Pc for heavy editing and gaming. I draw a lot and I need something heavy to handle all that. And this is the video where I got the parts from.

Most of the parts in that build are obsolete. One size does not fit all. You have to ask for a build tailored to your needs. Some builds on Youtube are just plain stupid, like anything by Austin Evans. That guy smokes something wacky IMO.

When you say heavy editing, can you be more specific? What program, what material? Give me an idea of the size and scope of your projects.

Do you do heavy multitasking that would benefit from a highly multithreaded environment? Running a minecraft server while playing Crysis 3 while rendering a video project while unzipping some .RAR files and watching 2 1080P videos would bog down a quad core. Likewise, certain heavy tasks like "heavy editing", in certain situations, can run much better on a CPU with more cores, so something like a 5820K might be an option for you. We need more information.

99% of the world is fine with a Z97 system with a 4790K, a high end GPU like a GTX 970, a hard drive, an SSD, and 16GB of RAM (for productivity, 8 for gaming).
We can't gauge whether you will need X99 unless you tell us what you do in more detail. You also have to be ok with spending the extra bucks. The minimum price difference between a Z97 system and an X99 system is over $200, with the cheapest X99 CPU, the 5820K.

edit- just noticed you want to spend "$1000 or more". That's kind of vague.

With a focus on gaming, this is what I would buy for $1000

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/mistersprinkles/saved/mWRnTW

Admittedly it's a little lacking in CPU power.

For a little over $1300, you could get the machine you probably need

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/mistersprinkles/saved/mGWmP6

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LmWKkL) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LmWKkL/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k) | $309.99 @ Newegg
**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i) | $95.98 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [Asus Z97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97iplus) | $154.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Memory** | [Team Xtreem 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2666 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-txd316g2666hc11cdc01) | $169.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1) | $87.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | $54.98 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp41970kr) | $329.98 @ NCIX US
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-s12g550) | $79.99 @ Newegg
**Optical Drive** | [Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe) | $14.99 @ Amazon
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615) | $89.98 @ OutletPC
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $1388.84
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-11 00:32 EST-0500 |

^This is an SFF (small form factor) PC. In other words, it's tiny. If that bothers you, all you need to do is change the mobo to an ASUS Z97-A and the case to a Corsair 300R and you have a full size PC.

I see your parents want to help you with this. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? If you're under 14, I'm not sure I'd suggest you do this yourself. You might be better off asking your dad to put the computer together for you.
Get him to watch a few Carey Holzman videos on Youtube. And make sure he watches one to follow along while he builds the actual computer.

 

[Gabby1019]

I"m 19 and I use Adobe Photoshop for all my drawings and also Adobe premiere. I have a cintiq 24Hd that I use almost everyday and I wanna start some heavy gaming. Is that still vague? Like I said I don't know everything about a PC but I hope I'm at least capable enough to put it together. Wanna tell me why you think the build I showed dosent fit?

 

[Sigur Ros]

I"m 19 and I use Adobe Photoshop for all my drawings and also Adobe premiere. I have a cintiq 24Hd that I use almost everyday and I wanna start some heavy gaming. Is that still vague? Like I said I don't know everything about a PC but I hope I'm at least capable enough to put it together. Wanna tell me why you think the build I showed dosent fit?

I'm curious... what does the Wacom have to do with your build ?

 

[ATMINSIDE]

I'm curious... what does the Wacom have to do with your build ?

Because it's a display with touch and pen input that connects to the computer.
It actually does help because it tells us what kind of work is being done.

 

[trents]

Gabby, the high end Photoshop programs you will be using are among the most demanding of all applications from a hardware perspective. To use Photoshop efficiently suggests a potent CPU, lots of memory and lots of storage. It's not clear to me if your use of Photoshop is as a student, a hobbyist or as a professional. I do know that professional photographers using Photoshop typically invest $1800-$2200 in their computer hardware in order to run the software efficiently. So doing this for $900 is going to be a challenge and there will need to be some compromises. So here is what I am suggesting for your case scenario:

CPU: AMD FX-6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286&cm_re=FX-6300-_-19-113-286-_-Product

CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ermaster_hyper_212_evo-_-35-103-099-_-Product

Motherboard: Asus M5A99X Evo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131874

Memory: G.Skill Ares 16gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231560

PSU (Power Supply): Seasonic 550W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

Video Card: Refurbished Superclocked Nvidia GTX 650 2gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130902 (note: Photoshop is optimized for Nvidia graphics cards)

System storage: Samsong 840 EVO 250gb SSD (Solid State Digital) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147248

Data storage: Seagate Barracuda 2tb 7200 rpm conventional spinner hard drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834

Data Input (LG DVD Burner): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...36276&cm_re=dvd_burner-_-27-136-276-_-Product

Case: Corsair Carbide 200R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018

Operating System?: Windows 7? 8.1? Can be had on ebay for around $80. Get 64-bit version.

I think that covers all the parts bases and comes to about $869 with rebates and discounts as currently listed. Keep in mind that rebates and discounts are only good for limited periods of time so these prices may change if you wait to purchase. This price includes only the hardware. Windows and other software would be extra.

Edited to add DVD burner and OS info and updated total cost.

 

[Sigur Ros]

(note: Photoshop is optimized for Nvidia graphics cards)

I don't know how relevant that really is since the differences seem pretty negligible.
The Radeon 7750, a mid-range card, performs almost the same as the 650, also a mid-range card.
7750 new is same price as 650 refurb... at Newegg.

But... I don't see how the optimization is a benefit worth deciding over.
(not arguing, just not seeing the difference).

She's already said she doesn't like AMD, so this post is moot.... but in case others read it, I think this may be relevant.

Here is the full study

 

[Theocnoob]

Gabby, the high end Photoshop programs you will be using are among the most demanding of all applications from a hardware perspective. To use Photoshop efficiently suggests a potent CPU, lots of memory and lots of storage. It's not clear to me if your use of Photoshop is as a student, a hobbyist or as a professional. I do know that professional photographers using Photoshop typically invest $1800-$2200 in their computer hardware in order to run the software efficiently. So doing this for $900 is going to be a challenge and there will need to be some compromises. So here is what I am suggesting for your case scenario:

CPU: AMD FX-6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286&cm_re=FX-6300-_-19-113-286-_-Product

CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ermaster_hyper_212_evo-_-35-103-099-_-Product

Motherboard: Asus M5A99X Evo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131874

Memory: G.Skill Ares 16gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231560

PSU (Power Supply): Seasonic 550W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

Video Card: Refurbished Superclocked Nvidia GTX 650 2gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130902 (note: Photoshop is optimized for Nvidia graphics cards)

System storage: Samsong 840 EVO 250gb SSD (Solid State Digital) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147248

Data storage: Seagate Barracuda 2tb 7200 rpm conventional spinner hard drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834

Case: Corsair Carbide 200R http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139018

I think that covers all the parts bases and comes to about $851 with rebates and discounts as currently listed. Keep in mind that rebates and discounts are only good for limited periods of time so these prices may change if you wait to purchase.

Have you ever done heavy photoshop work on an FX? especially a 6 core? It's brutal dude. Brutal. Gabby needs an i7. Full stop. (Or at least an i5).

- - - Updated - - -

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/mistersprinkles/saved/mGWmP6

This is still my recommendation.

Gabby- if you're 19 I think you are more than capable of assembling a PC on your own. Too many cooks in the kitchen is a bad thing. There should only be one person building a computer IMO.

 

[ATMINSIDE]

Have you ever done heavy photoshop work on an FX? especially a 6 core? It's brutal dude. Brutal. Gabby needs an i7. Full stop. (Or at least an i5).

- - - Updated - - -

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/mistersprinkles/saved/mGWmP6

This is still my recommendation.

Gabby- if you're 19 I think you are more than capable of assembling a PC on your own. Too many cooks in the kitchen is a bad thing. There should only be one person building a computer IMO.

Yes, I have done heavy Photoshop on an FX. It liked the six cores.

 

[Theocnoob]

Yes, I have done heavy Photoshop on an FX. It liked the six cores.

Everything I've read says that Photophop prefers an i7 to an FX.

 

[ATMINSIDE]

Everything I've read says that Photophop prefers an i7 to an FX.

Well 20+ image panoramas in RAW from my Rebel T3 didn't even miss a beat on an FX.
That's letting Photoshop do its auto-align and auto-blend.

 

[trents]

"Prefer" is one thing. Budget is another. As I said in my intro to post #88, the OP would need to live with some compromises for the kind of budget being presented. My goal in making those recommendations was to give her a complete list of parts that would reasonably cover her goals but be within her budget . . . and also to keep in simple since she seems overwhelmed by all the piecemeal recommendations.

 

[Sigur Ros]

Everything I've read says that Photophop prefers an i7 to an FX.

My actual experience:
My quad core works fine with Photoshop.
I'm not someone who applies edits to batches of wedding photos, though. When I did weddings I approached them in small batches that I edited separately. I never struggle having multiple images open with PS and LR and editing them.
Capture NX2 was the only one that challenged my system.

 

[Theocnoob]

I think Gabby should up the budget to $1300 and get the system I recommended. It will serve her (?) him (?) well.

 

[Gabby1019]

Lol, thanks guy for your help, and I am a girl�� I would say my fave company is Corsair, thir gaming mice and headsets are the Bomb in my opinion.

 

[Gabby1019]

Oh! And I've decided I'm not going with a mini...I want a nice full tower rig. sorry if I'm all over the place...that's my brain

 

[Gabby1019]

THEOCNOOB, I agree with your build, it has everything I want and a little more, plus I can upgrade overtime

 

[Theocnoob]

Oh! And I've decided I'm not going with a mini...I want a nice full tower rig. sorry if I'm all over the place...that's my brain

Flippidy-Floppidy.
You sure you want a full tower? There's very little you can get out of a full tower that you can't get out of an ATX mid tower, especially if you aren't custom water cooling.

Do you want a case like a Corsair 200R? Or something bigger like a 750D?
Keep in mind that the bigger you go, typically, the higher the price, which may screw up your budget even more. I would suggest keeping the case at or below $50. The Corsair 200R is a good choice in this price range.

Tell us more about your budget. How high exactly can you go? You said $1000 or more initially.

How about this?

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/mistersprinkles/saved/7NLp99

I'm going to remove my recommendation for a 240mm closed loop cooler as the high price will gain you very little actual performance. I have replaced it with a Hyper 212 for $30.

The above build has most of the same parts I suggested before. Same high end power supply, cheaper cooler, Good, reliable ATX motherboard. Decent, but affordable case. Some of the prices spiked over the last couple of days and what would have been $1300 is now $1400 . I don't know if you can stomach that increase.

If you need to shave some $$ off the above build, I suggest going to a 4770 (non K), a B85 motherboard, no aftermarket cooler, the 128GB version of the SSD and a Corsair CX500 power supply. A further, drastic step is to cut the CPU down to a 4690K, an i5. Keep the cooler in this case. i5 is going to underperform vs i7 in photoshop.

Also, please do not triple post. Just press "edit" on your post and add more information. Posting 3 times in a row is frowned upon. I don't know why but it just is.

BTW don't be a fanboy (fangirl? ) it's not good for you or your budget. Yes, Corsair makes some decent stuff but a lot of it is overpriced. The only "100% win" from them in my opinion is their cases, the designs of which are industry leading in my opinion. Also, IMO, Steelseries makes better mice and pretty much any headphone mfg who actually makes real headphones is going to sound better than Corsair headsets. The best thing you can do is get a really good pair of headphones from AKG, Sennheiser, Grado, Audio Technica, etc, and add something called a "Mod mic" to it. Better audio quality by far. Not that much costlier, either. A good middle of the road compromise is Sennheiser's "PC" line, which are quality headphones with a mic attatched.