OC'ing FX6300

[Ajay57]

Just a quick heads up when you take off the cooler from the CPU and before you clean it, take a look as to how your Thermal Paste looks on the face?? This will indicate whether it was applied properly in the first place always a good tip! So next time you can try slightly a different method of applying? AJ.

 

[DevinR]

glad to see you got some upgrades! now time for that cable management!

 

[Oysti82]

I'll put up a picture of the thermal paste when I remove the cooler. I put a small dot on the center of the cpu, size of a unboiled rice.

Damn cables Got so many unused ones. Sent a request about RMA'ing my power supply. Getting a modular one, Corsair AX850 most likely.

Anyone got any experience with my fan controller? Scythe Master Pro 6-channels.
Adjusting the fans with it works fine, so obviously the power in is working.
BUT, there is no life in the display. So I can't see at wich speed they run. And it looses it's coolness-factor too!

 

[Oysti82]

Ok, so I removed the cooler.
Putting up some pics of the thermal paste on cpu and cooler.
Seeing it's not smeared completely most likely from the uneven pressure from the cooler due to the broken screw..?
Had a look at it now, and the backplate is fine. So it's just the screw then.

Does the amount of paste seem enough, given it gets an even pressure from the cooler on it ?

When it comes to cable management, I'm gonna let that be for now. Getting a new PSU with modular cables in 2-3 days.

 

[Oysti82]

Applied a tad more paste this time, about a pea-size.
Temps seems to have dropped some, but still a bit high ?
This is after 10 mins with Prime95.
Cores peaked to 51celsius, but stayed on 47-48 most of the time.

Edit: Using Arctic MX-4 Thermal Compound.

 

[Oysti82]

Getting a bit off-track here.

But anyone got a good tip for a new case ? Would like some more space to play with.
Big Tower of some sort.
Gonna order a modular PSU and a 7970 tonight, so thought I could throw in a new case aswell
And going for a custom watercooling-loop soon aswell, so would be nice to have room for that.
And would be nice to have some space behind the motherboard to hide cables and stuff
Been looking at:
CM FULLTOWER STORM TROOPER XL-ATX
COOLER MASTER FULLTOWER HAF X

 

[DevinR]

temps look good man, mine operates about the same under load

i can definately tell you u didnt have enough thermal lol

corsair 600t is a safe bet for a mid case with tons of room.

never had the need for a full tower so i couldnt tell ya there

 

[Oysti82]

temps look good man, mine operates about the same under load

i can definately tell you u didnt have enough thermal lol

corsair 600t is a safe bet for a mid case with tons of room.

never had the need for a full tower so i couldnt tell ya there

Really? Just looked at some photos from when I was playing with my FX4100, had 48celsius as max temp on the cores then @1,5V.
The FX6300 is only getting 1,4V, and has the same temps..?

Ye, I figured out it was a bit little. So used around a pea-sized dot this time.

If I'm getting a new case, I'm going for a full tower. Computer will always be placed in our home-office. So it doesn't really matter if it's big.
NZXT Phantom 820 looks a bit interesting really, though I liked the width of the one you're posting.

 

[DevinR]

mine is actually running a bit warmer than yours... never have any probelms though

 

[trents]

Yep, not enough paste and also uneven pressure. Make the blob 3-4mm across.

 

[Oysti82]

mine is actually running a bit warmer than yours... never have any probelms though

Hmmm... Okay then. Just find it a bit strange that my FX6300 runs that much hotter than my FX4100.
FX4100 @ 1,5V = 47celsius
FX6300 @ 1,4V = 47celsius

But maybe I'm making a fuzz outta nothing then.

 

[Oysti82]

Yep, not enough paste and also uneven pressure. Make the blob 3-4mm across.

Ye, had the blob about that size this time.
And not sure if you caught what I wrote about the uneven pressure, but that was from one of the four screws fastening the cooler too the cpu was a bit ****ed, so it didn't go all the way in.

 

[Ajay57]

Yeah what did i say not enough paste, that's why its a good way to check it? What i do is a thin line down the centre of the CPU north to south and a pea size on the water block in the centre! Then as you bolt it down it pushes out and removes the air between the too. Good job there. AJ.

 

[RGone]

Hmmm... Okay then. Just find it a bit strange that my FX6300 runs that much hotter than my FX4100.
FX4100 @ 1,5V = 47celsius
FX6300 @ 1,4V = 47celsius

But maybe I'm making a fuzz outta nothing then.

Well you may be making fuzz out of it and surely will not be the only one. I just linked this FX-6300 hot user to your thread so he can dot i's and cross t's.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=724156

 

[Oysti82]

Right then, been playing some with my BIOS while waiting for my new stuff to arrive
NZXT Switch 810, Corsair AX850 and a Sapphire HD7970.

Did some changes to the voltages.
NB:At the picture I'm at 1,45V on Vcore, had to up it too 1,4625V cause a worker stopped.
12 mins into Prime95 it's all going now.

---- Worker#5 dropped out after 13 mins. Rest still running after 22 mins.

What is the difference by "CPU/NB Manual Voltage" and "NB Voltage" ?

Multipler @ 19,5.
FSB @ 240
CPU/NB @ 2400
HT Link @ 2400
RAM @ ~1333. 9-9-9-24-33

Upped Vcore to 1,4625V
Upped CPU/NB Manual Voltage to 1,1375 from 1,1.
Upped NB Voltage to 1,1375 from 1,1.
Lowered NB HT Voltage from 1,2 to 1,150. The HT freq is lowered from 2600 to 2400, so figured I could lower a bit on the voltage there.

 

[Oysti82]

Would expecting the temps to go higher, guess there is room to up the voltage some more ?
Just so the workers don't drop out on me ?

Or do you have some other suggestion for me ?

 

[RGone]

You write >> Multipler @ 19,5.
I write >> Lovely.

You write >> FSB @ 240
I write >> Lovely if the ram is not overclocked to instability. Looking it seems not.

You write >> CPU/NB @ 2400
I write >> Lovely if the CPU_NB voltage is set approximately 1.3V or very slightly less.

You write >> HT Link @ 2400
I write >> Standard default is 2600Mhz and seems fine to run at 2600Mhz.

You write >> RAM @ ~1333. 9-9-9-24-33
I write >> Okay that lowering to DDR1333 seems in line with you raising FSB to 240 from stock 200 which has clocked ram back up in speed.

You write >> Upped Vcore to 1,4625V
I write >> Vcore may vary in how much each user may need to bring about stability, so that will depend on how much it takes to stop worker failure and YET stay within CPU and "Package" temp suggestions of 70c and 60c respectively.

You write >> Upped CPU/NB Manual Voltage to 1,1375 from 1,1.
I write >> AS I wrote above it may take up to 1.3V to stabilize the 2400Mhz CPU_NB speed you have set. AMD says that up to 1.35V is acceptable. Increased CPU_NB voltage can raise temps slightly so it is a balancing act of trial and error at your end to give enough CPU_NB voltage and I seldom set mine below 1.2875V any longer.

You write >> Upped NB Voltage to 1,1375 from 1,1.
I write >> I have never seen anyone raise that voltage for any reason since it seems fine at default voltage. It is not usually considered to have anything to do with stability of any sort.

You write >> Lowered NB HT Voltage from 1,2 to 1,150. The HT freq is lowered from 2600 to 2400, so figured I could lower a bit on the voltage there.
I write >> I certainly would not be adjusting the NB HT Voltage at all. In the normal course of overclocking that voltage has never figured into an overclock and the what-ifs are too great to know what may happen stability wise and you sail uncharted waters, since it is about 99.9% left alone.

 

[Ajay57]

In my opinion leave it there if it totally stable, why you my ask as any of the top AMD Guy's would say. There is nothing to be gained going beyond 4.4 to 4.6 except bragging rites? A stable 4.5 or less for everyday use with good temps is what its really about or to aiming for? Its your set up but, i would not do anymore! AJ.


P.S. Stability is everything in a PC System for everyday use?

 

[Oysti82]

You write >> Multipler @ 19,5.
I write >> Lovely.

You write >> FSB @ 240
I write >> Lovely if the ram is not overclocked to instability. Looking it seems not.

You write >> CPU/NB @ 2400
I write >> Lovely if the CPU_NB voltage is set approximately 1.3V or very slightly less.

You write >> HT Link @ 2400
I write >> Standard default is 2600Mhz and seems fine to run at 2600Mhz.

You write >> RAM @ ~1333. 9-9-9-24-33
I write >> Okay that lowering to DDR1333 seems in line with you raising FSB to 240 from stock 200 which has clocked ram back up in speed.

You write >> Upped Vcore to 1,4625V
I write >> Vcore may vary in how much each user may need to bring about stability, so that will depend on how much it takes to stop worker failure and YET stay within CPU and "Package" temp suggestions of 70c and 60c respectively.

You write >> Upped CPU/NB Manual Voltage to 1,1375 from 1,1.
I write >> AS I wrote above it may take up to 1.3V to stabilize the 2400Mhz CPU_NB speed you have set. AMD says that up to 1.35V is acceptable. Increased CPU_NB voltage can raise temps slightly so it is a balancing act of trial and error at your end to give enough CPU_NB voltage and I seldom set mine below 1.2875V any longer.

You write >> Upped NB Voltage to 1,1375 from 1,1.
I write >> I have never seen anyone raise that voltage for any reason since it seems fine at default voltage. It is not usually considered to have anything to do with stability of any sort.

You write >> Lowered NB HT Voltage from 1,2 to 1,150. The HT freq is lowered from 2600 to 2400, so figured I could lower a bit on the voltage there.
I write >> I certainly would not be adjusting the NB HT Voltage at all. In the normal course of overclocking that voltage has never figured into an overclock and the what-ifs are too great to know what may happen stability wise and you sail uncharted waters, since it is about 99.9% left alone.

Thanks for the quick answer
Alright, I will change voltages not needed to change back to default then.

Also I put the HT Link to 2400, cause after I increased FSB. The next step for HT Link would put me at 2680.

Increased the vcore some, to 1,48125V.

One of the workers shut down after 10 mins.

Not going any higher than that with Vcore, as the cores peaked to 64c at one time. But 99,9% of the time it stayed 55-56c.
CPU maxed out at 49c. The fan on the back there is sure making some noise, but it works

Not really sure where to go now, as dropping the multiplier drops me kinda close to 4,5Ghz again. Wich I can do with 1,38 Vcore and only multiplier-clocking.

 

[Oysti82]

In my opinion leave it there if it totally stable, why you my ask as any of the top AMD Guy's would say. There is nothing to be gained going beyond 4.4 to 4.6 except bragging rites? A stable 4.5 or less for everyday use with good temps is what its really about or to aiming for? Its your set up but, i would not do anymore! AJ.


P.S. Stability is everything in a PC System for everyday use?

That is very true
I don't seem to be able to gain much speed, even with a "big" jump in the Vcore.
And I would most likely settle for 4,5 maybe 4,6 for everyday use anyways.

This is pretty much to see how far I get it, and to do some learning along the way