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- Dec 10, 2004
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- The CircuitCity FireDog House
FIRST OFF, i think its very important to state two very rough general rules of thumb.
1. a 10% increase in CPU speed will get you about a 6% improvement in overall system performance.
2. A 10% improvement in memory speed (that runs at 1:1 with the processor fsb) will get you about a 1% increase in overall system performance.
so a 10% increase in processor and memory speed gets you about 7% overall performance increase.
for more info on that here'e the webpage
http://www.overclockers.com/articles758/index02.asp
THE PROCESSOR.
people should pick one these options when it comes to the processor.
for 478 pin motherboards
Pentium 4/ 2.4C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache.............135$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-158&depa=1
or
Pentium 4/ 2.8C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache.............194$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-162&depa=1
or (you could get the 2.8 with 1mb cache for cheaper because it performs more poorly unless its is a really high overclock)
Pentium 4/ 2.8E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache..........177$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-174&depa=1
or
Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1M L2 Cache............295$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-177&depa=1
for LGA 775 motherboards
Pentium 4 2.8 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache,..........158$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-185&depa=1
or
Pentium 4 3.4 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 cache ..........280$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-182&depa=1
the reason for this is that with the 478pin 3.2 and 3.4 C0 steppings , or the LGA 775 pin 3.4 D0, 3.6 and 3.8 any stepping. abit and asus motherboards offer the option to change the multiplier to 14 this reduces the processor speed to 2.8ghz (14 x 200fsb) this allows you to overclock the fsb much higher than you normally would be able to due to the 4.0ghz being more or less the "redline" of processor speeds. although with the 3.8 chances are you will be able to exceed 4 ghz by a fair margin quite simply with the right setup.
abit unlocked boards
http://www.abit-usa.com/news/2004/20041109.php
asus unlocked boards and list of compatible processors
http://www.asus.com/news/2004/20040921.htm
in this list of compatible processors they dont mention that you need the correct stepping...not just the processor speed.
if you want to see what stepping your processor is along with other details specs
you can find your processor specs here.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp
if you dont know your processor number you can look it up here
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp
the reason people want a higher fsb is so that thier ram and processor can have more bandwidth. (ram runs at 2 times the fsb) because if you buy ddr500 ram but leave your computer at the stock 200fsb speed. then the fastest your ram will run is ddr400. whereas if you overclocked the fsb to 250 then your ddr500 ram would run at ddr500 and your processor would be at 3.5ghz
(14 x 250fsb).
PROCESSOR AND RAM BANDWIDTH
the processor fsb is 4 times your base fsb. this basicly determines the bandwidth of your processor. an 800fsb processor has a 6.4 GB/s bandwidth, single channel DDR400 has 3.2GB/s bandwidth (thats where the pc3200 name comes from) whereas dual channel DDR400 has 6.4GB/s bandwidth.
a 1066fsb processor has 8.5GB/s which matches up nicely with the dual channel DDR533 bandwidth of 8.4GB/s (probly closer to 8.5)
RAM RATIOS
it is possible to run DDR533 with a 200FSB with a 3:4 memory ratio if your motherboard supports it some have 4:5 (200fsb ddr500) as well as other ratio options .
though you would get more performance by buying ram that ran 1:1 ratio with your processor fsb with tighter latency timings. or getting a better video card.
its also possible to run your processor faster than your memory. which is what the ratios are usually used for since people are often limited by thier slower memory.
LATENCY TIMINGS
The amount of improvement varies greatly depending on the application you're running, but it's safe to generally characterize the improvement by saying that, compared with CAS 3.0 RAM, CAS 2.5 will give you a 1% to 2% speed boost, and CAS 2.0 will give you 2% to 4%
(for people that like to play halo the lowest latency ram showed a gain of 10% going to 2.0)
for more detailed info see this link that includes benchmarks and definitions.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1637763,00.asp
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as to making the decision between the lga775 2.8ghz processor and the nearly twice as expensive 3.4 ghz processor.
keeping in mind that no matter what speed processor you get (excluding the 3.8) 4.0ghz is an absolute redline. people can run past that speed. but not very far and not very often(are people able to get a stable overclock that high).
with that said overclocking your 2.8 processor to 3.724 with a 266fsb is a huge overclock. you are getting nearly a whole ghz more. it is very possible that your 2.8 processor may run out of gas so to speak. and not be able to overclock that high leaving you to settle for a lesser overclock.
whereas overclocking your 3.4 to 3.724 with a 266fsb is a much lesser overclock and chances are that your processor will be able to push that minimal distance.
however. a less than high quality powersupply, motherboard or ram may be a limiting factor in getting to 266fsb.
with abit boards the vdimm voltage (voltage available to give your ram) many times is not enough for the power hungry brand of ram the person chose to run.
a great priced high speed low latency non power hungry brand of ram to get would be as they only require 2.6 vdimm opposed to most 2.8 thru 3.0+
this runs ddr400 speed at the lowest 2-2-2-5 latencies. and ddr533 at fairly low latencies as well.
Patriot Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-3200 w/ XBL Technology
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-033&depa=1
with the site info page here
http://www.pdpsys.com/products/PDC1G512G3200+XBLK.pdf
another great ram would be. this one...or one of the lower priced versionsof the same speed
G.skill (Samsung TCCD) Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-4400
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-231-006&depa=1
here is a good review on that
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=2&artpage=949&articID=244
many people seem to think ddr2 ram is much more expensive id have to disagree with them
ddr400-ddr533 patriot xbl is 220$
and the DDR2 533 CORSAIR VALUESELECT is 222$ here
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-526&depa=0
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some handy information from batboy
"I looked over your list again. It's hard to beat the price of that Corsair Value DDR2... but, check this out.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-211-128&depa=1
As long as you buy two sticks of the same exact RAM, you'll be fine. They run dual channel no problem. I have tried using dual channel "kits" and buying two of the same sticks of RAM. They overclock almost exactly the same."
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Motherboard brand selection
there are 2 main choices of manufacturors for overclockable motherboards. ABIT and ASUS.
tho there are exceptions within MSI and Albatron and DFI as well as the occasional other brands. you really should stick to either abit or asus in my opinion.
478pin MOTHERBOARDS
ABIT seems to rule this area of the motherboards being as asus has droop issues with the P4P and P4C 800's
with motherboards for the 478 pin processors there are 2 main choices. the 865 and 875.
if you are going to be getting a northwood processor then the 865 is a fine choice for pricing and options . if you are going to be getting a prescott then you need to go with the 875 without a doubt, sometimes people choose to run the i865 chipset mobos with prescotts these tend to be less desirable because of their smaller power mosfets. and can be a very limiting factor to your overclock.
LGA775 MOTHERBOARDS
i havnt found any eveidence to a clear winner for the ABIT vs ASUS performance for the 925XE But the ASUS costs 100$ more so.... there you go..
.
for the LGA775 motherboard's there is really only one chipset to get when overclocking with a lowered multi. the 925XE.
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POWER SUPPLYS
as for power supplys. this is the most underrated part in its importance for overclocking. it is imperative you pick a powersupply brand that is know for supplying CONSISTANT power at the rated watts. as many merely list thiers PEAK watts which is nowhere near the amount they can consistantly supply
toms hardware lists 3 brands they would reccomend here
http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20030609/power_supplies-18.html
here's a site with great info on picking a power supply for your system needs
http://www.bleedinedge.com/guides/psu_select/psu_select_01.html
the antec true 550 is the premium pick at the moment, however there are 2 versions of it... the 20 pin version and the 24 pin version.
the 24 pin version is the one you want , the 20 pin version has a pathetic 12v rail 24A in comparison with the 36A of the 24 pin.
here is antecs page with the specs and part number for the real true 550
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=20550
and here is the page where i found one with that part number (corrected at batboys advise)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-918&depa=0
and here is one thats in stock
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556000563.html
and another one for less
http://www.dttcomputer.com/catalog/detail.asp_id_PS-AN-True550-EPS.html
HEATSINKS AND TEMPERATURE
before i go into which heatsinks you should be getting id like to tell you about the FALSE TEMPERATURE READING you get from ABIT and ASUS.
summed up it goes like this
Abit EQ reports temps anywhere from 7-11 degrees Centigrade HIGH
Abit software reports temps anywhere from 10-13 degrees Centigrade HIGH
Asus software reads anywhere from 5-8 degrees Centigrade LOW
http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/abit_asus_temps/abit_asus_temps_01.html
i'd also like to clear up the misconception that if you keep your processor icey cold you can pump all the volts you want into it until it gets hot. this isnt true.
it is true that more volts create more heat and its important for you to counteract that with adequate cooling. and that the better your cooling is the more volts you can put into the processor without it overheating. however the MAX VOLTAGE LIMIT STAYS THE SAME!
you can "FRY your processor" while its icey cold so do some research on your processor around the forums and find the general consesnsus on what is the maximum voltage you should be running!
i will compile a list of this information as soon as i get a chance.
its also a good idea to know what your max cpu temp should be. its normallt in the 67-69 area. but this is redline max. you should be running your computer below mid 50's at least.
you can find your processor heat specs here.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp
if you dont know your processor number you can look it up here
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp
HEATSINKS
last but not least the heatsink is a very important factor in overclocking your computer since this is what keep it cool. you should pick one of 3 options when selecting a heatsink..
aircooled rankings
http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/p4sum.asp
watercooled rankings
http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/waterkit.asp
the thermalright xp-120 is the best aircooled heatsink there is. because with the bigger 120mm fan it can move lots more air with way less noise. the downside of this one being its uncompatibility with some motherboards. you can find this list at http://www.thermalright.com/
but its little brother the xp-90 cools just as well decibal for decibal at high levels (noise level) and is compatible with all motherboards.
i recommend getting this with some artic silver 5 and a high output panaflo fan at
http://heatsinkfactory.com/cgi-bin/HFAstore.pl
coming in 3rd for its ridiculously low price 20$ for the performance you get is the Vantec AeroFlow VP4-C7040 For Intel P4 478 it ranks the same as the 2nd place watercooler with 0.18 C/W http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-110-008&depa=0
CASE AND FANS
aside from your heatsink and heatsink fan getting good airflow in and out of your case is a must. and the best way to do that would be to get a case with lots of places for fans.
the cheapest one i could find with the most fan slots i could find is here
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=541440&Sku=D15-1002
it has 7 slots for 80 mm fans and comes with 3 red or blue lighted ones. not to mention it has a large grate on the top of the case which lets you aim all the fans to blow out the hot case air for even better airflow. on top of that it has a clear side panel and overall it looks cool! lol
this goes great with this 80mm fan deal. at newegg. make sure to buy the 15 fans to get the best discount. (free shipping and .99 cents per fan) which cost the same as thier deal for 7 fans.(.99 shipping per fan and .99 per fan)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-007&depa=0
this way you wont ever have to buy more fans...(me being the idiot i got the 7 fans without looking at the next deal down...and here i am ordering fans again... where if i had only got the 15 fans i wouldnt be spending 15$ again...)
1. a 10% increase in CPU speed will get you about a 6% improvement in overall system performance.
2. A 10% improvement in memory speed (that runs at 1:1 with the processor fsb) will get you about a 1% increase in overall system performance.
so a 10% increase in processor and memory speed gets you about 7% overall performance increase.
for more info on that here'e the webpage
http://www.overclockers.com/articles758/index02.asp
THE PROCESSOR.
people should pick one these options when it comes to the processor.
for 478 pin motherboards
Pentium 4/ 2.4C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache.............135$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-158&depa=1
or
Pentium 4/ 2.8C GHz 800MHz FSB, 512K Cache.............194$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-162&depa=1
or (you could get the 2.8 with 1mb cache for cheaper because it performs more poorly unless its is a really high overclock)
Pentium 4/ 2.8E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache..........177$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-174&depa=1
or
Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1M L2 Cache............295$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-177&depa=1
for LGA 775 motherboards
Pentium 4 2.8 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache,..........158$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-185&depa=1
or
Pentium 4 3.4 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 cache ..........280$
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-182&depa=1
the reason for this is that with the 478pin 3.2 and 3.4 C0 steppings , or the LGA 775 pin 3.4 D0, 3.6 and 3.8 any stepping. abit and asus motherboards offer the option to change the multiplier to 14 this reduces the processor speed to 2.8ghz (14 x 200fsb) this allows you to overclock the fsb much higher than you normally would be able to due to the 4.0ghz being more or less the "redline" of processor speeds. although with the 3.8 chances are you will be able to exceed 4 ghz by a fair margin quite simply with the right setup.
abit unlocked boards
http://www.abit-usa.com/news/2004/20041109.php
asus unlocked boards and list of compatible processors
http://www.asus.com/news/2004/20040921.htm
in this list of compatible processors they dont mention that you need the correct stepping...not just the processor speed.
if you want to see what stepping your processor is along with other details specs
you can find your processor specs here.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp
if you dont know your processor number you can look it up here
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp
the reason people want a higher fsb is so that thier ram and processor can have more bandwidth. (ram runs at 2 times the fsb) because if you buy ddr500 ram but leave your computer at the stock 200fsb speed. then the fastest your ram will run is ddr400. whereas if you overclocked the fsb to 250 then your ddr500 ram would run at ddr500 and your processor would be at 3.5ghz
(14 x 250fsb).
PROCESSOR AND RAM BANDWIDTH
the processor fsb is 4 times your base fsb. this basicly determines the bandwidth of your processor. an 800fsb processor has a 6.4 GB/s bandwidth, single channel DDR400 has 3.2GB/s bandwidth (thats where the pc3200 name comes from) whereas dual channel DDR400 has 6.4GB/s bandwidth.
a 1066fsb processor has 8.5GB/s which matches up nicely with the dual channel DDR533 bandwidth of 8.4GB/s (probly closer to 8.5)
RAM RATIOS
it is possible to run DDR533 with a 200FSB with a 3:4 memory ratio if your motherboard supports it some have 4:5 (200fsb ddr500) as well as other ratio options .
though you would get more performance by buying ram that ran 1:1 ratio with your processor fsb with tighter latency timings. or getting a better video card.
its also possible to run your processor faster than your memory. which is what the ratios are usually used for since people are often limited by thier slower memory.
LATENCY TIMINGS
The amount of improvement varies greatly depending on the application you're running, but it's safe to generally characterize the improvement by saying that, compared with CAS 3.0 RAM, CAS 2.5 will give you a 1% to 2% speed boost, and CAS 2.0 will give you 2% to 4%
(for people that like to play halo the lowest latency ram showed a gain of 10% going to 2.0)
for more detailed info see this link that includes benchmarks and definitions.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1637763,00.asp
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as to making the decision between the lga775 2.8ghz processor and the nearly twice as expensive 3.4 ghz processor.
keeping in mind that no matter what speed processor you get (excluding the 3.8) 4.0ghz is an absolute redline. people can run past that speed. but not very far and not very often(are people able to get a stable overclock that high).
with that said overclocking your 2.8 processor to 3.724 with a 266fsb is a huge overclock. you are getting nearly a whole ghz more. it is very possible that your 2.8 processor may run out of gas so to speak. and not be able to overclock that high leaving you to settle for a lesser overclock.
whereas overclocking your 3.4 to 3.724 with a 266fsb is a much lesser overclock and chances are that your processor will be able to push that minimal distance.
however. a less than high quality powersupply, motherboard or ram may be a limiting factor in getting to 266fsb.
with abit boards the vdimm voltage (voltage available to give your ram) many times is not enough for the power hungry brand of ram the person chose to run.
a great priced high speed low latency non power hungry brand of ram to get would be as they only require 2.6 vdimm opposed to most 2.8 thru 3.0+
this runs ddr400 speed at the lowest 2-2-2-5 latencies. and ddr533 at fairly low latencies as well.
Patriot Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-3200 w/ XBL Technology
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-220-033&depa=1
with the site info page here
http://www.pdpsys.com/products/PDC1G512G3200+XBLK.pdf
another great ram would be. this one...or one of the lower priced versionsof the same speed
G.skill (Samsung TCCD) Dual Channel Kit 184-Pin 1GB(512MB x 2) DDR PC-4400
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-231-006&depa=1
here is a good review on that
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=2&artpage=949&articID=244
many people seem to think ddr2 ram is much more expensive id have to disagree with them
ddr400-ddr533 patriot xbl is 220$
and the DDR2 533 CORSAIR VALUESELECT is 222$ here
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-526&depa=0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
some handy information from batboy
"I looked over your list again. It's hard to beat the price of that Corsair Value DDR2... but, check this out.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...-211-128&depa=1
As long as you buy two sticks of the same exact RAM, you'll be fine. They run dual channel no problem. I have tried using dual channel "kits" and buying two of the same sticks of RAM. They overclock almost exactly the same."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Motherboard brand selection
there are 2 main choices of manufacturors for overclockable motherboards. ABIT and ASUS.
tho there are exceptions within MSI and Albatron and DFI as well as the occasional other brands. you really should stick to either abit or asus in my opinion.
478pin MOTHERBOARDS
ABIT seems to rule this area of the motherboards being as asus has droop issues with the P4P and P4C 800's
with motherboards for the 478 pin processors there are 2 main choices. the 865 and 875.
if you are going to be getting a northwood processor then the 865 is a fine choice for pricing and options . if you are going to be getting a prescott then you need to go with the 875 without a doubt, sometimes people choose to run the i865 chipset mobos with prescotts these tend to be less desirable because of their smaller power mosfets. and can be a very limiting factor to your overclock.
LGA775 MOTHERBOARDS
i havnt found any eveidence to a clear winner for the ABIT vs ASUS performance for the 925XE But the ASUS costs 100$ more so.... there you go..
.
for the LGA775 motherboard's there is really only one chipset to get when overclocking with a lowered multi. the 925XE.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
POWER SUPPLYS
as for power supplys. this is the most underrated part in its importance for overclocking. it is imperative you pick a powersupply brand that is know for supplying CONSISTANT power at the rated watts. as many merely list thiers PEAK watts which is nowhere near the amount they can consistantly supply
toms hardware lists 3 brands they would reccomend here
http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20030609/power_supplies-18.html
here's a site with great info on picking a power supply for your system needs
http://www.bleedinedge.com/guides/psu_select/psu_select_01.html
the antec true 550 is the premium pick at the moment, however there are 2 versions of it... the 20 pin version and the 24 pin version.
the 24 pin version is the one you want , the 20 pin version has a pathetic 12v rail 24A in comparison with the 36A of the 24 pin.
here is antecs page with the specs and part number for the real true 550
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=20550
and here is the page where i found one with that part number (corrected at batboys advise)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-103-918&depa=0
and here is one thats in stock
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556000563.html
and another one for less
http://www.dttcomputer.com/catalog/detail.asp_id_PS-AN-True550-EPS.html
HEATSINKS AND TEMPERATURE
before i go into which heatsinks you should be getting id like to tell you about the FALSE TEMPERATURE READING you get from ABIT and ASUS.
summed up it goes like this
Abit EQ reports temps anywhere from 7-11 degrees Centigrade HIGH
Abit software reports temps anywhere from 10-13 degrees Centigrade HIGH
Asus software reads anywhere from 5-8 degrees Centigrade LOW
http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/abit_asus_temps/abit_asus_temps_01.html
i'd also like to clear up the misconception that if you keep your processor icey cold you can pump all the volts you want into it until it gets hot. this isnt true.
it is true that more volts create more heat and its important for you to counteract that with adequate cooling. and that the better your cooling is the more volts you can put into the processor without it overheating. however the MAX VOLTAGE LIMIT STAYS THE SAME!
you can "FRY your processor" while its icey cold so do some research on your processor around the forums and find the general consesnsus on what is the maximum voltage you should be running!
i will compile a list of this information as soon as i get a chance.
its also a good idea to know what your max cpu temp should be. its normallt in the 67-69 area. but this is redline max. you should be running your computer below mid 50's at least.
you can find your processor heat specs here.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp
if you dont know your processor number you can look it up here
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/default.asp
HEATSINKS
last but not least the heatsink is a very important factor in overclocking your computer since this is what keep it cool. you should pick one of 3 options when selecting a heatsink..
aircooled rankings
http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/p4sum.asp
watercooled rankings
http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/waterkit.asp
the thermalright xp-120 is the best aircooled heatsink there is. because with the bigger 120mm fan it can move lots more air with way less noise. the downside of this one being its uncompatibility with some motherboards. you can find this list at http://www.thermalright.com/
but its little brother the xp-90 cools just as well decibal for decibal at high levels (noise level) and is compatible with all motherboards.
i recommend getting this with some artic silver 5 and a high output panaflo fan at
http://heatsinkfactory.com/cgi-bin/HFAstore.pl
coming in 3rd for its ridiculously low price 20$ for the performance you get is the Vantec AeroFlow VP4-C7040 For Intel P4 478 it ranks the same as the 2nd place watercooler with 0.18 C/W http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-110-008&depa=0
CASE AND FANS
aside from your heatsink and heatsink fan getting good airflow in and out of your case is a must. and the best way to do that would be to get a case with lots of places for fans.
the cheapest one i could find with the most fan slots i could find is here
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=541440&Sku=D15-1002
it has 7 slots for 80 mm fans and comes with 3 red or blue lighted ones. not to mention it has a large grate on the top of the case which lets you aim all the fans to blow out the hot case air for even better airflow. on top of that it has a clear side panel and overall it looks cool! lol
this goes great with this 80mm fan deal. at newegg. make sure to buy the 15 fans to get the best discount. (free shipping and .99 cents per fan) which cost the same as thier deal for 7 fans.(.99 shipping per fan and .99 per fan)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-007&depa=0
this way you wont ever have to buy more fans...(me being the idiot i got the 7 fans without looking at the next deal down...and here i am ordering fans again... where if i had only got the 15 fans i wouldnt be spending 15$ again...)
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