extreme temps on my P4, not even oced!

[Sp1k3]

i got my mobo down to 17C and my cpu down to 35C, so i got some pretty good temps. mobo normally is like 35C and CPU is normally 55's. and i dont know why my computer runs so hot. and i never even overclocked it yet! well it maybe because i have no case fans, and i only have cpu fan and psu fan. most of the time i leave my side panel off and put a nice big fan next to it. so i can mantain a decent cpu and mobo temp. the fan that i put on the side panel is the equalivint of a 200 CFM fan. so it is a nice fan to put on my side panel when i am gaming on this crapper.

can someone please tell me why my computer runs so hot? oh yeah those temps are at idle too! So there is definatley a problem.

i think it says somewhere on there that i have a socket 478, but i really have a socket 423.

oh yea here are my pc specs at idle (typing this thread)

SiSoftware Sandra

System
Manufacturer : Compaq
Version : C01BDABB

System Chassis
Manufacturer : Compaq
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Compaq
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : 077Ch

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 3
Maximum Installable Memory : 3GB
Bank 1 - XMM1 : JEDEC ID:2C FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 16LSDT3264AG-133E1 AD912057 DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 256MB/64 @ 133Mt/s
Bank 2 - XMM2 : JEDEC ID:2C FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 8LSDT1664AG-133E1 8BCF0945 DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 128MB/64 @ 133Mt/s
Bank 3 - XMM3 : Empty

FLASH Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 1
Bank 4 - XU15 : Chip Non-Volatile FLASH 512kB/4

Chipset 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82845 Brookdale Host-Hub Interface Bridge (A3-step)
Bus(es) : X-Bus AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 100MHz (400MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 4x 100MHz / 1x 133MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 12 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : Hub-Interface
Version : 1.00
Number of Ports : 1
Width : 8-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 1/1x
Speed : 4x 66MHz (264MHz data rate)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 128MB SDRAM 3-3-3-6CL
Bank 1 : 128MB SDRAM 3-3-3-6CL
Bank 2 : 128MB SDRAM 3-3-3-6CL
Speed : 1x 133MHz (133MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 4/3x
Width : 64-bit
Refresh Rate : 15.60µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

APIC 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 16MHz
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : No

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module 1 : Micron 16LSDT3264AG-133E1 572091AD 256MB 16x(16Mx8) SDRAM PC133U-333-542 (CL3 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)
Memory Module 2 : Micron 8LSDT1664AG-133E1 4509CF8B 128MB 8x(16Mx8) SDRAM PC133U-333-542 (CL3 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)

Environment Monitor 1
Model : AD ADM1028 SMB
Version : 0.02
Mainboard Specific Support : No[/COLOR]

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 39.0°C / 102.2°F td
CPU Temperature : 62.0°C / 143.6°F td


AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 4x 66MHz (264MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/2x
Fast-Writes Enabled : Yes
Side Band Enabled : Yes
Aperture Size : 64MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.20
Number of Bridges : 2
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (33MHz)
PCI Bus 2 : PCI (33MHz)
Multiplier : 1/3x

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82801BA (ICH2) LPC Interface Controller
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Random Number Generator Enabled : No
Random Number Generator Support : Yes
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : SMSC LPC v1
Version : 6D.00
Number of Enabled Devices : 5

USB Controller 1
Model : Compaq Computer Corp (Now owned by Hewlett-Packard) 82801BA/BAM (ICH2/ICH2-M) USB Universal Host Controller
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Compaq Computer Corp (Now owned by Hewlett-Packard) 82801BA/BAM (ICH2/ICH2-M) USB Universal Host Controller
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1
Model : Accton Technology Corp TSB12LV26 OHCI Compliant FireWire Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : Yes
Channels : 64
Speed : 400MHz

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : Intel 801xx SMBus
Version : 1.02
Slave Device Enabled : Yes
Speed : 16kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
AGP Slot J40 : AGP-4x 32-bit +3.3V Half-Length Used
PCI Slot 1: J20 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME i2c/SMBus Half-Length Used (Intel Corporation 82845 Brookdale Host-AGP Bridge (A3-step))
PCI Slot 2: J21 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME i2c/SMBus Half-Length Used
PCI Slot 3: J22 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME i2c/SMBus Half-Length Available

Port Connector
COM A - COM A : Serial Port 16550A - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM B - COM B : Serial Port 16550A - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
PAR - PAR : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - 25 Pin Dual Inline / DB-25 pin female
USB 1 - USB 1 : USB - USB / USB
USB 2 - USB 2 : USB - USB / USB
KBD - KBD : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2
MOUSE - MOUSE : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
CD-AUDIO IN 1 : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None
TV & DVD Audio In : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None
P20rimary IDE : None - ATA / None
P21:Secondary IDE : None - ATA / None
P10:Floppy : None - Floppy Disk / None
J13 - Line I/O: MIC : MIDI - None / Mini-DIN
J15 - Line I/O: Line In : MIDI - None / Mini-DIN
J13 - HeadPhone & Line Out : MIDI - None / Mini-DIN
P9: NIC : None - None / None
Chassis Fan : None - None / None
P6: Speaker : None - None / None

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.[/color]

 

[lyle]

Criminy, lose the blue font....

You are not going to be able to o'c this easily as it's an OEM Compaq, and if it truly is a socket 423 then why even bother? I have had minimal luck with temp reporting programs working on OEM boards, so in my opinion, if you are running stable, then leave well enough alone and don't worry about it. Most OEM boxes are actually designed well enough as far as thermal considerations, so if it runs a little hot, the manufacturer has taken that into consideration.

So, are you running stable? If so, leave alone and don't worry about it.

 

[Sp1k3]

well when i play games on my computer. every once and a while my computers sound will echo outl, and freeze up for about 30 seconds. but when i put the big fan next to it with side panel off i noticed it didnt happen any more. as odd as it sounds, i dont even know how my computer can run at those temps. and it seems to be stable, but when the temps raise i notice a large performance decrease (websites load way slower, and system slows down). it maybe just the system trying to cool down. and i plan to get a 1700+ amd and a NF7 mobo, and some mushkin dual channel 256mb ram. so i am going to get some new stuff. and i dont care to much about this system anymore, i just need to use it until i get my new system up and running. and i plan to get that baby oced to about 2.3ghz. so i will be flying compared to this pc. hopefully. and i dont want to oc this system that i currently have, or else i will need to get some water cooling or soemthing.

 

[Sp1k3]

is this a good fan for this heatsink? and are they compadible?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProdu...description=Thermalright,SLK900A&searchdepa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-103-132&depa=1

 

[lyle]

Neither one of these HSF units will work on that old Compaq, socket 423 had a special mounting system that required the use of four tapped holes in the motherboard tray under the motherboard. The only place that I know of that still has some S423 HSF's is at www.2cooltek.com but it's been awhile since I've been there.

 

[TheWesson]

mobo normally is like 35C and CPU is normally 55's. and i dont know why my computer runs so hot. and i never even overclocked it yet! well it maybe because i have no case fans, and i only have cpu fan and psu fan. most of the time i leave my side panel off and put a nice big fan next to it. so i can mantain a decent cpu and mobo temp. the fan that i put on the side panel is the equalivint of a 200 CFM fan. so it is a nice fan to put on my side panel when i am gaming on this crapper.

can someone please tell me why my computer runs so hot? oh yeah those temps are at idle too! So there is definatley a problem.

I think you already stated one answer - you have no case ventilation - so take a look at your case and see where you can put in fans, one for intake and one for exhaust.

Usually bottom front is intake and top rear is exhaust.

Ventilate your case adequately and you'll be down by 10-15C on mobo and CPU temps and you'll probably not be crashing any more.

A different CPU HS/fan sounds like a good idea, but just getting some ventilation in your case would be the easiest first step!

the wesson

PS Or just run a duct from an opening in your case to your CPU HS/fan and your CPU and case will be cooler w/o you buying or installing any extra fans. That's sort of the minimal solution. Kind of like using your CPU fan as a combined CPU/case fan.

 

[Jognt]

Wesson is right, get some case fans for gods sake!

poor CPU

put some nice intakes (minimal 32CFM i advise)
and make some exhausts.. my CPU runs at 33°C ive got 2 intakes and 2 exhausts.. (one intake in side window)
get your flow up