SOLVED new 4170, need ID help

[caddi daddi]

sand bending is the same thing, weld a cap over one end, fill with sand, tamp it down tight as you fill it, weld the open end shut and bend till your happy.
i think i may have to use another bend allowance. if I have the time this week i will be researching.

 

[BeepBeep2]

KRIPES!!!! and these people think i'm DR. gonzo, you beepbeep take the cake.
all i could do was a lowly 4.5 with it and you have it rockin 7.0........

On liquid nitrogen cooling though, ~-185c idle...
I saw it was a gem, that's why I bugged ya about it so bad!

You beat up on it a bit for sure but it still flies.