Hello. First of all I should say sorry for mistakes, because english is not my native, and second thing to know about me is that I'm relatively noob in practical computer building and stuff like BIOS settings and... you know. Casual user here.
I need help with choosing right combination of components for my new computer. I could buy and build cheap PC myself, I guess, but when it comes to high-end stuff, I am scared that my level of knowledge is not enough for operating with something expencive alone.
I plan to buy components separetely in my local shop, and build computer myself/with some help, if needed. I want to notice, that my old PC, which I use now, can run pretty much anything, I was playing DOOM and AC Unity on all ultra's, but most of it's components are 5 years old now (or more), and I want to change.
Purpose of computer:
1) I want to play some certain type of sandbox games with comfort. For example, some of you may heard of the game called "Factorio", it is pretty popular now. In a nutshell, it is a sandbox game, which eats more and more resources as long as you progress and develop your save file. A game can be easily played even on least powerfull setups out there, as long as you don't push it to something hardcore, which I plan to do. Bottlenecks, while playing on the edge of insanity, are, according to various researches found on Reddit, CPU freq and RAM throughput. There is also recommendation to have at least 16GB of RAM, because some saves require this.
Another game of this kind, which I may play is "Starmade". I may return to "Kerbal Space Program" one day. Those type of games.
I guess if I will be able to buy rig, which works for those games, I will be able to run anything. It's like the joke "But can it run Minecraft?".
2) 3D modeling/Video encoding/Video editing/Rendering, you got the idea. I heard, it is mostly about your CPU when it comes to this thing. I have no problems now, but maybe Sony Vegas will render faster in insanely complex projects?
My old computer has some components, which I've upgraded in it year ago, and I plan to re-use them in my new build:
1) ASUS GEFORCE GTX 970 OC EDITION videocard
I feel like this is more than enough for comfort FHD gaming in modern and forthcoming games. It works for sandbox type of stuff, more than enough. I will still have an option to change it some years later.
2) CHIEFTEC 650W power supply
Bought with videocard. Advertised as something proper and reliable. My new PC should be okay with it too?
So, I need those things then: CPU, Fast and effective RAM, Mobo for them, SSD, CPU cooler, HDD(Can I use my old one?), Case.
Did I forget anything?
Lastly, my non-final thoughts about what to buy. You will also kind of understand my budget there (Yeah, my money are somewhat limited with common sence)
1) I browsed many Intel CPUs on many sockets. Sorry, not a fan of AMD for some reason. Prices on CPUs are insane out there. But I feel that there is no point of buying something so-so outdated. I'm currently into idea of:
LGA 1151 Intel Core i7-6700K
I don't understand it in depth, but I heard that "K" means I can boost it up, it's base freq is already insane 4GHz (well, for me), and some magic with Z170 allows to boost voltage (I seriously have no experience in this, but read it). I think it is an insanely powerfull processor for my tasks. What do you think of this one? Is it a good choise?
2) I consider DDR4 memory. Researches around "Factorio" performance showed, that game highly benefits from fast memory, much more than casual games (Where, as I understood you get almost no difference?). Anyways people say DDR4 is "the future" and blah blah. According to prices in my local shop, most expensive model I can afford there is:
G.Skill Ripjaws 4 [F4-2666C15Q-16GRR]
But I have no idea if this will work as intended, because description says it has XMP 2.0, which will work on X99, but probably won't on z170, which I want to choose? In a nutshell, I want to buy really fast RAM, which will serve me for years ahead, and I was looking for something 2600MHz+. But I have no actual idea what will actually work. i7-6700K seems to support pretty much any freq I can afford out there, eh.
Another RAM which I, for some reason, clicked on is:
Corsair Vengeance LPX [CMK16GX4M4A2800C16]. 2800 one, a little bit cheaper, no idea why, may be "timings" are worse... 16GB too.
Of cource, there are many other models in the shop, but I don't know how to choose there. May you tell me some specific stuff which I should be aiming at? Like, I heard that you can overclock G.Skill one to higher freq. I also heard that 3000+ sometimes gives you nothing. So much knowledge is needed...
3)For the motherboard I already started thinking about my total budged being exceeded, so my thoughts are I can't buy some serious top-tier monster. What about:
ASUS Z170-DELUXE
Not cheap, but definitly not even top-10 most expensive cards in the shop. Will it work with 6700K? What DDR4 I choose for it? Specs say it supports up 4xDDR4-3733MHz.
Again, I have no idea why some motherboards cost more, and some less. I don't know how to choose them. I just heard that z170 has good potential, and it has that LGA 1151, which is needed for 6700K.
I've also heard that some motherboards do not support some magic with voltage and stuff... How to understand if chipset is what is worth to buy?
There is an ASUS Z170-WS in this shop, it costs almost TWICE as much as DELUXE, and I have absolutely no idea why. Can't afford it. There is also something like MSI Z170A GAMING M7, which costs less than DELUXE, but seems to have same capabilities.
My brain burns... I don't want to make insane mistake. Please help me with CPU-RAM-MoBo trio.
Finally I'll also need Case, SSD, and cooler. I think I will be able to choose SSD and Case myself, that seems easy. But I'll apreciate recommendations on CPU cooler, and I also need help with "toothpaste" thing. I guess leaving everything on air cooling will be fine? As I'm inexperienced, I would not like to mess with water cooling sustems, if that's possible. My GTX 970 barely turns it's fans most of the time. Yeah, CPU with 4k+ freq is a hot babe, but maybe you know something, which will cool it fine. I'm also scared to choose cooler which won't fit because of RAM size and position, you know...
Okay that's been long post. You got the idea. I hope someone, who knows better than me will help me to spend my money without fails.
P.S. My current CPU is the oldest i7 out there, I guess 2xxx something. RAM must be some basic DDR3, I don't even know. I bought it as a finished computer, not part by part. I've not tried pushing something like "Factorio" to insanety yet, but I know I'll have a heavy slideshow. I want to buy a computer, which I'll REALLY see a diference on. i7's never been bad with years, and I know that my oldest i7 still runs pretty much everything I throw into it, that's why I think there are basically 2 worthy options: either don't change my current PC at all, or buy something powerfull to see boost with a bare eye.
I need help with choosing right combination of components for my new computer. I could buy and build cheap PC myself, I guess, but when it comes to high-end stuff, I am scared that my level of knowledge is not enough for operating with something expencive alone.
I plan to buy components separetely in my local shop, and build computer myself/with some help, if needed. I want to notice, that my old PC, which I use now, can run pretty much anything, I was playing DOOM and AC Unity on all ultra's, but most of it's components are 5 years old now (or more), and I want to change.
Purpose of computer:
1) I want to play some certain type of sandbox games with comfort. For example, some of you may heard of the game called "Factorio", it is pretty popular now. In a nutshell, it is a sandbox game, which eats more and more resources as long as you progress and develop your save file. A game can be easily played even on least powerfull setups out there, as long as you don't push it to something hardcore, which I plan to do. Bottlenecks, while playing on the edge of insanity, are, according to various researches found on Reddit, CPU freq and RAM throughput. There is also recommendation to have at least 16GB of RAM, because some saves require this.
Another game of this kind, which I may play is "Starmade". I may return to "Kerbal Space Program" one day. Those type of games.
I guess if I will be able to buy rig, which works for those games, I will be able to run anything. It's like the joke "But can it run Minecraft?".
2) 3D modeling/Video encoding/Video editing/Rendering, you got the idea. I heard, it is mostly about your CPU when it comes to this thing. I have no problems now, but maybe Sony Vegas will render faster in insanely complex projects?
My old computer has some components, which I've upgraded in it year ago, and I plan to re-use them in my new build:
1) ASUS GEFORCE GTX 970 OC EDITION videocard
I feel like this is more than enough for comfort FHD gaming in modern and forthcoming games. It works for sandbox type of stuff, more than enough. I will still have an option to change it some years later.
2) CHIEFTEC 650W power supply
Bought with videocard. Advertised as something proper and reliable. My new PC should be okay with it too?
So, I need those things then: CPU, Fast and effective RAM, Mobo for them, SSD, CPU cooler, HDD(Can I use my old one?), Case.
Did I forget anything?
Lastly, my non-final thoughts about what to buy. You will also kind of understand my budget there (Yeah, my money are somewhat limited with common sence)
1) I browsed many Intel CPUs on many sockets. Sorry, not a fan of AMD for some reason. Prices on CPUs are insane out there. But I feel that there is no point of buying something so-so outdated. I'm currently into idea of:
LGA 1151 Intel Core i7-6700K
I don't understand it in depth, but I heard that "K" means I can boost it up, it's base freq is already insane 4GHz (well, for me), and some magic with Z170 allows to boost voltage (I seriously have no experience in this, but read it). I think it is an insanely powerfull processor for my tasks. What do you think of this one? Is it a good choise?
2) I consider DDR4 memory. Researches around "Factorio" performance showed, that game highly benefits from fast memory, much more than casual games (Where, as I understood you get almost no difference?). Anyways people say DDR4 is "the future" and blah blah. According to prices in my local shop, most expensive model I can afford there is:
G.Skill Ripjaws 4 [F4-2666C15Q-16GRR]
But I have no idea if this will work as intended, because description says it has XMP 2.0, which will work on X99, but probably won't on z170, which I want to choose? In a nutshell, I want to buy really fast RAM, which will serve me for years ahead, and I was looking for something 2600MHz+. But I have no actual idea what will actually work. i7-6700K seems to support pretty much any freq I can afford out there, eh.
Another RAM which I, for some reason, clicked on is:
Corsair Vengeance LPX [CMK16GX4M4A2800C16]. 2800 one, a little bit cheaper, no idea why, may be "timings" are worse... 16GB too.
Of cource, there are many other models in the shop, but I don't know how to choose there. May you tell me some specific stuff which I should be aiming at? Like, I heard that you can overclock G.Skill one to higher freq. I also heard that 3000+ sometimes gives you nothing. So much knowledge is needed...
3)For the motherboard I already started thinking about my total budged being exceeded, so my thoughts are I can't buy some serious top-tier monster. What about:
ASUS Z170-DELUXE
Not cheap, but definitly not even top-10 most expensive cards in the shop. Will it work with 6700K? What DDR4 I choose for it? Specs say it supports up 4xDDR4-3733MHz.
Again, I have no idea why some motherboards cost more, and some less. I don't know how to choose them. I just heard that z170 has good potential, and it has that LGA 1151, which is needed for 6700K.
I've also heard that some motherboards do not support some magic with voltage and stuff... How to understand if chipset is what is worth to buy?
There is an ASUS Z170-WS in this shop, it costs almost TWICE as much as DELUXE, and I have absolutely no idea why. Can't afford it. There is also something like MSI Z170A GAMING M7, which costs less than DELUXE, but seems to have same capabilities.
My brain burns... I don't want to make insane mistake. Please help me with CPU-RAM-MoBo trio.
Finally I'll also need Case, SSD, and cooler. I think I will be able to choose SSD and Case myself, that seems easy. But I'll apreciate recommendations on CPU cooler, and I also need help with "toothpaste" thing. I guess leaving everything on air cooling will be fine? As I'm inexperienced, I would not like to mess with water cooling sustems, if that's possible. My GTX 970 barely turns it's fans most of the time. Yeah, CPU with 4k+ freq is a hot babe, but maybe you know something, which will cool it fine. I'm also scared to choose cooler which won't fit because of RAM size and position, you know...
Okay that's been long post. You got the idea. I hope someone, who knows better than me will help me to spend my money without fails.
P.S. My current CPU is the oldest i7 out there, I guess 2xxx something. RAM must be some basic DDR3, I don't even know. I bought it as a finished computer, not part by part. I've not tried pushing something like "Factorio" to insanety yet, but I know I'll have a heavy slideshow. I want to buy a computer, which I'll REALLY see a diference on. i7's never been bad with years, and I know that my oldest i7 still runs pretty much everything I throw into it, that's why I think there are basically 2 worthy options: either don't change my current PC at all, or buy something powerfull to see boost with a bare eye.
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