Should I get a 1050 ti after having 780 classified?

[NewbieOneKenobi]

It just when the GPU exceeds $400 I feel it's really expensive as I can invest that money on a high end gaming laptop, and when I want to play on a bigger screen I just connect it to the bigger TV with HDMI, and connect external mouse and keyboard, how about this idea? Would you recommend that for me?

Nope. Those gaming laptops are fitted out with 1050s and 1050tis that are even weaker than their desktop versions. Also their CPUs are weaker than desktop counterparts. Totally not worth it. If you want portability, build an ITX gaming rig — there's plenty of cheap used hardware for that. You can even strap a suitcase handle on the chassis if you want. But not a gaming laptop for plugging into a TV — there's Xbox for that. It will cost less and give you better quality. Xbox One should be more or less on par with a decent RX 580-based PC and is not bad if you don't need a PC other than for gaming. Otherwise it's still better to purchase a strong GPU for a work rig.

I have a 27" qnix 2560x1440p, I have to say it's really beautiful playing many games.

But I want a bigger one, 34" gaming monitor would be a good one, but what if I want bigger one to put away, because I want to lay down on the couch and do everything as I'm laying on the couch.

As I posted before I have a 55" TV so I know what it's like to work on that size. Maybe I want a smaller one, maybe 48", 44" or 42". If I'm working on my desktop table then the 27" would be fine.

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I'd leave your current monitor be — 27'' & 1440p is a good combination for pixel size etc. Don't overextend itself. Focus on one thing if you can. Your existing monitor is already too much for your rig to handle, so focus on getting a good GPU first. 1070ti should max most things out at 1440p, and especially for optimized or just simply older games you should be able to use virtual 4K resolution (AMD VSR /nVidia DSR, basically scaling, similar to supersampling), if you even like it, because chances are you won't. And if just a huge screen is what you're feeling like at any given moment, nothing will beat that 55'' TV of yours. So I wouldn't really think about getting one more piece of LED. Focus on the GPU.

From what I can see, 1080s are becoming cheaper now, whereas 1070tis not really — they are a new product and being ambitiously priced, unlike the stronger 1080 that, however, has grown on everybody and become nothing out of the ordinary. The plus side of bying 1070ti, however, is that it basically is a slightly weaker 1080, and it is necessarily just a couple of months old, unlike a 1080 that can be old as sin and nearing the end of warranty or already past it.

Speaking of which, the last thing you want to buy is a new, unopened box without warranty, proof of purchase, etc. You don't even know if it isn't DoA. So make sure the seller at least promises to take it back if it's DoA, and that the marketplace owner (e.g. E-Bay) will back you up. Even if it has warranty etc., you still want to make sure the store won't make any problems if a second owner pops up half a year later and claims the card is DoA.

To make your life easier, you may want to just skip 'inferior' brands altogether and go for the ones with the nicest heatsinks, overclocking capability (average, of course), good power sections (10 phases etc.), as well as good fans — FDB (fluid dynamic), not sleeve bearings, and the larger the better, preferably 2 and not 3 or 1.

I would personally skip Gigabyte. I know I may be biased, but I've dealt with two or more bad units from them personally and read a lot of negative opinions about their cards overheating, coolers being insufficient, fan curves being crazy and not applying properly, and fans being extremely loud when spinning fast, plus problems with overheating/power sections maybe. All in all, I prefer not to touch Gigabyte for more expensive GPUs. 1060 for ~150 I don't really care, but anything beyond (or anything AMD-based and Gigabyte) is too much risk for me. If you want to keep looking for used stuff at a bargain, focus on best-in-class brands like MSI Gaming X, Asus Strix, Palit Super Jet Stream and EGA Superlocked or (non-Super) Palit Jet Stream or the solid average that is MSI Armor or Asus Expedition, or even pure basics like Asus Dual. There are more, but they get trickier if you aren't deep into this stuff. You can sometimes find the cards reviewed on the same website using the same methodology, which should tell you which one is better when you have two or more to choose from.

EDIT: Since you mentioned quiet and cool: The champ is 1070ti, I'm afraid.

Asus 1070ti Strix with 29dbA under load at 100cm distance (one case wing removed): https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1070_Ti_STRIX/29.html
The same card with full 1080 rises to 33dbA in the same conditions: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_STRIX/23.html

MSI GamingX 1070ti also hits 29: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Ti_Gaming/29.html
… But 1080 goes up to 31: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1080_Gaming_X/23.html

Zotac Amps are less quiet (32 for 1080, so still not bad) and obviously so are Zotac minis (but the minis may be easier to cool off with a single large replacement fan if you buy a card that's already past warranty).

Palit 1070ti Super Jet Stream gets 30 in the same test: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_1070_Ti_Super_JetStream/29.html
But so does Palit 1080 Game Rock, probably one of the quietest 1080s ever: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_1080_GameRock/24.html

Gigabyte is never going to get close.

G1 (which is already among the best GB's) gets 34 dba: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1080_G1_Gaming/23.html
Aorus… actually gets 31 in fact: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1080_Aorus_Xtreme_Edition/29.html, so if you can trust GB…

But admittedly $409 for NIB 1070ti is hard to beat.

 

[R1S8K]

Nope. Those gaming laptops are fitted out with 1050s and 1050tis that are even weaker than their desktop versions. Also their CPUs are weaker than desktop counterparts. Totally not worth it. If you want portability, build an ITX gaming rig — there's plenty of cheap used hardware for that. You can even strap a suitcase handle on the chassis if you want. But not a gaming laptop for plugging into a TV — there's Xbox for that. It will cost less and give you better quality. Xbox One should be more or less on par with a decent RX 580-based PC and is not bad if you don't need a PC other than for gaming. Otherwise it's still better to purchase a strong GPU for a work rig.

First of all .. thank you so much for the wonderful and deep detailed answer. Just reading your answer is enjoyable

In regard to the XBOX, I'm not so much into consoles anymore, my new passion is gaming rigs and laptops.

My gaming rig is: i7-4770k, 8GB corsair, 650W CM, GTX 1070 ti, G502 mouse and redragon mechanical keyboard, 2x 1TB HDD.
My gaming laptop is: i5-6300, 8GB RAM, GTX 960m, seagate 2TB HDD.

I use laptop a lot for my work and quick gaming, and it's very beautiful along my travels absolutely good times

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I'd leave your current monitor be — 27'' & 1440p is a good combination for pixel size etc. Don't overextend itself. Focus on one thing if you can. Your existing monitor is already too much for your rig to handle, so focus on getting a good GPU first. 1070ti should max most things out at 1440p, and especially for optimized or just simply older games you should be able to use virtual 4K resolution (AMD VSR /nVidia DSR, basically scaling, similar to supersampling), if you even like it, because chances are you won't. And if just a huge screen is what you're feeling like at any given moment, nothing will beat that 55'' TV of yours. So I wouldn't really think about getting one more piece of LED. Focus on the GPU.

The 27'' & 1440p is of course a very good one if it's on the table, but now I moved my rig to be in front of my new couch so I can enjoy long gaming sessions laying over, and setting on the table with the laptop is for work.

The 55" is for the living room of my apartment because I'm married so it's for everyone setting in that area of the apartment, so I need another TV for my private gaming/work room. So as I already have a 55" TV I can tell it's a bit bigger for what I want .. hmm I don't know exactly, maybe 44" or 40" would fit my setup perfectly.

This is a picture of my room:

So yeah, I just received my new Gigabyte 1070 ti from Amazon

The card is wow, it plays BF4 easily with very little GPU load. I think it's 4x that 780 classified!

From what I can see, 1080s are becoming cheaper now, whereas 1070tis not really — they are a new product and being ambitiously priced, unlike the stronger 1080 that, however, has grown on everybody and become nothing out of the ordinary. The plus side of bying 1070ti, however, is that it basically is a slightly weaker 1080, and it is necessarily just a couple of months old, unlike a 1080 that can be old as sin and nearing the end of warranty or already past it.

I tried to find the cheapest 1080 but it was for like $100+ the price of the 1070ti and as the 1070ti is little slower than the 1080, then it should be very suitable for me. Then I found the 1070ti from gigabyte for $410 on Amazon.

Speaking of which, the last thing you want to buy is a new, unopened box without warranty, proof of purchase, etc. You don't even know if it isn't DoA. So make sure the seller at least promises to take it back if it's DoA, and that the marketplace owner (e.g. E-Bay) will back you up. Even if it has warranty etc., you still want to make sure the store won't make any problems if a second owner pops up half a year later and claims the card is DoA.

You're right but that would be more easier if I live in USA where shipping between cities and states is cheaper than if I get it from a person who live in a far country and then there was a problem with the card then it would be really expensive to return that card.

In my country there are people who sell and buy used GPUs in the local region which is inside Saudi Arabia, but they ask the price of my new 1070ti to get their used 1060 or 1070! So I thought OK .. I better get this 1070ti from Amazon, it's new and more powerful. I thought my choice is the best combination for the different situations.

To make your life easier, you may want to just skip 'inferior' brands altogether and go for the ones with the nicest heatsinks, overclocking capability (average, of course), good power sections (10 phases etc.), as well as good fans — FDB (fluid dynamic), not sleeve bearings, and the larger the better, preferably 2 and not 3 or 1.

I didn't understand this part clearly. What do you mean by "'inferior' brands"?

What I know that the good brands are Gigabyte, EVGA, MSI ... etc. And the new brands like ZOTAC

I would personally skip Gigabyte. I know I may be biased, but I've dealt with two or more bad units from them personally and read a lot of negative opinions about their cards overheating, coolers being insufficient, fan curves being crazy and not applying properly, and fans being extremely loud when spinning fast, plus problems with overheating/power sections maybe. All in all, I prefer not to touch Gigabyte for more expensive GPUs. 1060 for ~150 I don't really care, but anything beyond (or anything AMD-based and Gigabyte) is too much risk for me. If you want to keep looking for used stuff at a bargain, focus on best-in-class brands like MSI Gaming X, Asus Strix, Palit Super Jet Stream and EGA Superlocked or (non-Super) Palit Jet Stream or the solid average that is MSI Armor or Asus Expedition, or even pure basics like Asus Dual. There are more, but they get trickier if you aren't deep into this stuff. You can sometimes find the cards reviewed on the same website using the same methodology, which should tell you which one is better when you have two or more to choose from.

Yes you're right, but from my experience I have a Gigabyte motherboard and it went into some moving and relocations during my travels and held up pretty well and also took and throwing shock during airflight shipping which broke my first GTX 770 but the MB survived But that time it was my fault because I didn't screw the GPU to the rig's case.

EDIT: Since you mentioned quiet and cool: The champ is 1070ti, I'm afraid.

Asus 1070ti Strix with 29dbA under load at 100cm distance (one case wing removed): https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1070_Ti_STRIX/29.html
The same card with full 1080 rises to 33dbA in the same conditions: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_1080_STRIX/23.html

MSI GamingX 1070ti also hits 29: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Ti_Gaming/29.html
… But 1080 goes up to 31: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1080_Gaming_X/23.html

Zotac Amps are less quiet (32 for 1080, so still not bad) and obviously so are Zotac minis (but the minis may be easier to cool off with a single large replacement fan if you buy a card that's already past warranty).

Palit 1070ti Super Jet Stream gets 30 in the same test: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_1070_Ti_Super_JetStream/29.html
But so does Palit 1080 Game Rock, probably one of the quietest 1080s ever: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_1080_GameRock/24.html

Gigabyte is never going to get close.

G1 (which is already among the best GB's) gets 34 dba: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1080_G1_Gaming/23.html
Aorus… actually gets 31 in fact: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1080_Aorus_Xtreme_Edition/29.html, so if you can trust GB…

But admittedly $409 for NIB 1070ti is hard to beat.

Thanks for the links, wow the ASUS is a beast But of course it's more expensive but not much than the Gigabyte 1070 ti.