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The Official O/C Team 32 Folding FAQ/Links and everything else

The Official O/C Team 32

Folding FAQ/links/and everything else!

The FAQ in its entirety can be found on the team page http://folding.octeams.com/


---INTRO---

1. What is [email protected]
2. Where can I find out more about the project?
3. [email protected] in detail.
4. What is gromacs?
5. Is there a list of current projects?
6. Where can I find more information on the proteins?
7. Who "owns" the results? What will happen to them?
8. Why don't you post the source code?
9. Why not just use a supercomputer?
10. Can I run [email protected] on a machine I don't own?


---General Hardware Questions/Info---

1. What are the system requirements for folding?
2. Can I be a dial up user and still use FAH?
3. Is there support for dual processors?
4. Will running my computer at 100% 24/7 shorten the life of my computer?
5. Is there anyway to speed up my folding times?


---Setup/Quick Guides and Getting started---

Now that I know what folding is, where do I get the client?

1. FAH 3.1 text-only client setup guide for 98/ME/2000/XP/.
2. Linux setup guide.
3. FAH 3.1 graphical client setup guide for 98/ME/2000/XP.
4. How do I hide the console?
5. How do I run the client as a service in 98/ME?
6. How do I run the client as a service in NT/2000/XP? This also includes how to use Firedaemon!
7. How do I setup more than multiple clients on one machine?
8. Setting up your computer to auto-dial.
9. I am interested in setting up a diskless folding setup, where can I find out more about this?


---General questions- Network and Software---

Samba Guide for EMIII

1. I am behind a firewall, can I still use FAH?
2. Why should I try to keep my client up to date?
3. Can I run FAH and SETI at the same time?
4. Will FAH keep me from doing the things I normally do?
5. How do I send back a protein when I am done with it?
6. How long do I have to finish a work unit?
7. Can I download more than one unit at a time, is caching available with this client?
8. How can I keep track of my client?
9. I have machines on a network, is there a way to monitor them all from one place?
10. I keep getting the same work units over and over is this a problem?
11. I am running more than one client and they are both working on the same work unit, is this a problem?
12. Why does adjusting the core process priority via the task manager not affect its performance? How do I manually adjust the priority of the [email protected] core?
13. Can I run the Linux version on Free-BSD?


---Other Questions---

1. Which version should I run?
2. What about security issues?
3. Will FAH run in standby mode?
4. What Time Zone does FAH use and can I change it?
5. On Stanford's stat page it has the wrong start date for me? How can I fix this?
6. I am using windows and I get a dll error when i try to run the folding client?
7. FAH looks strange (windows) or segfaults (Linux)
8. My screensaver just looks like a black screen with little dots floating around. What gives?
9. I get an error like "Format:MyForm not found" when I try to download.
10. I get an error like "Network Recv Timeout" or in the console version (or in the file scrlog.txt).
11. I get an error like "Running self tests.......test failed, error -1" in the console version (or in the file scrlog.txt), but it seems to be running OK after that.
12. When I'm running the screensaver, it crashes, and says something about a page fault.
13. I get an error like "Running self tests.......test failed, error -1" in the console version (or in the file scrlog.txt), and it dies.
14. How can I choose [email protected] or [email protected], just give a preference, or allow the client to be flexible?
15. Why merge the two clients?
16. I just finished a WU and now I got another for the same protein. Is there something wrong?
17. How do I run the screen saver when nobody is logged on?


---Stats and user information---

1. Where can I find my personal stats and the team stats and server stats?
2. How do I change my user name?
3. How you decide how much credit a work unit is worth?
4. Where can I find a list of how much each protein is worth?
5. I just joined but I don't I see myself in the stats?
6. On Stanfords stat's page I am higher in the stats than on Statsman's page; I have the same number of points on both pages, as do all the people around me? What's wrong?
7. The stats say we are in 4th place but everyone else says we are in 3rd, how is this?
8. Where can I go for more help?
9. Are there any characters I should avoid in a username?
10. How you decide how much credit a work unit is worth?


---Addon software---

1. What is Electron Microscope III and how do I set it up?
2. How do I get EMIII out of stealth mode?
3. Is there an O/C skin for EMIII?
4. What is Fold Monitor and how do I set it up?
5. Is there an O/C skin for Fold monitor?
6. What is KDfold and how do I set it up?
7. Is there an O/C skin for KDfold?
8. Is there a IRC stats script available for FAH?
9. If I have any problems with these programs where can I get more help?


Written and compiled by: NASsoccer

******Special thanks to******

Ploaf, Ebola, Rav (for the Linux guide), David (ofdx), muddocktor, Loud, The Weatherman, BBigJ, EM3 site, KDfold site, stanford folding site, and www.overclockers.com !!! --It couldn't have been complete without their efforts!!


--If you have any comments/suggestions or you think something should be added to the FAQ please PM me. Also drop me a note to report a broken link.
 
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QUICK LINKS - For new folders

Originally posted by res0r9lm
Client:
you can get latest windows or linux client here. http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html
or the beta here http://folding.stanford.edu/beta3/

programs to hide client:
hide it or trayit

stats:
stanford or statsman or overclockers.ws stats

folding news and forums:
OC Teams
http://forum.folding-community.org/
http://folding.stanford.edu/news.html

on going protein point values and deadlines:
http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html

point values for all protein to date:
point value all proteins

The best way to increase folding speed is to overclock your cpu but some motherboards don't support overclocking but don't worry if you have one of these board there is a shareware program called cpufsb 2.2.6 that makes it possible for you to raise your fsb.

have more than one computer but only one monitor try using VNC.
 
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YattaMonster How-To

Special thanks go to gator for the following Yatta Monster How-To;

::Reference Thread>>The Official 'YattaMonster How-to' Thread

How to set up a "folding-farm" using completely diskless (NOTHING THAT SPINS EXCEPT FANS!) motherboards running Linux-based folding clients.

Attached to this posting is the file: Howto_Yatta.zip, which contains the second revision of my guide to installing and configuring the software for the "server" for a Yattamonster system such as the one Stymee is running and has been discussed elsewhere.

This revision provides:
(1) Support for running multiple folding clients on dual-processor systems

(2) Runs folding under a specified account, (named "yatta" in the examples, but you can call it whatever you want), this ensures that all the files created by the Stanford folding client are "owned" by the "yatta" user, and all processes run as the logged-in "yatta" user instead of "root" - which is far safer for security reasons and makes it easier to run Foldmonitor than the original version.

(3) provides for folding on the "server" as well as the farm boards.

(4) closes a few cracks left open in the earlier guide, gives some extra info to avoid some problems I've heard about.

(5) Discusses some avenues for improving maintainability and usability with DNS/BIND and SAMBA.

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who attempts to set up a diskless-network-booted folding-farm (aka Yattamonster) using this information, your experiences and feedback will greatly assist in improving this document.

-The Gator :burn: :beer:
 
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Official Protien Points Breakdown

How each protien breaks down Pointwise, thanks to res0r9lm;

::Reference Thread>>The Points Breakdown Thread

http://folding.stanford.edu/psummary.html
  • 1 OS - 33.472842 8.0997169 - 2 pts
  • 1SHF - 1.6 pts
  • 1UBQ - 2.3 pts
  • 1APS - 4 pts
  • 2ABD - 3.2 pts
  • 2SPZ - 1.29 pts
  • 601_BBAW_helix - .75 pts
  • 602_BBAW_hairpin - .75 pts
  • Ab28-43V - 1 pt
  • Ab28-43T - 1 pt
  • ABETA17-42 - .8 pts
  • Alzheimer Amyloid Beta - .2 or .8 pts
  • ALA Sidechain OPLSAA - .3 pts
  • ASN Sidechain-Amber - .6 pts
  • BBA5_Build_ext - .6 pts
  • bba5_ext300K- .6 pts
  • bba5_ext250K- .6 pts
  • bba5_ext402K- .6 pts
  • bba5_ext500K- .6 pts
  • CYS Sidechain- OPLSAA - .3pts
  • CYS Sidechain-Charmm - .3pts
  • Engrailed Homeodomain - 1 pts
  • GNRA Hairpin- 2 pts
  • GNRA pfold 2- .5 pts
  • GNRA pfold 314 - .5 pts
  • gnra hairpin(50 frame verison) - .5 pts
  • GNRA_f0- 2pts
  • GNRA_f1- 2pts
  • GNRA_f2- 2pts
  • GNRA_f3- 2pts
  • GNRA_f4- 2pts
  • GAAA_tetraloop - 2pts
  • GAGA_tetraloop - 2pts
  • GLN Sidechain-OPLSAA - .3 pts
  • GLN Sidechain-Amber - .6 pts
  • GLN Sidechain-CHARMM - .3 pts
  • HIE Sidechain-CHARMM - .6 pts
  • HIE Sidechain-OPLSAA - .6 pts
  • I6C - 1 pt
  • ILE Sidechain-CHARMM - .3 pts
  • ILE Sidechain-OPLSAA - .6 pts
  • LUE Sidechain-OPLSAA - .6 pts
  • MET Sidechain - CHARMM- .6 pts
  • Met sidechain-Amber- .3 pts
  • Native bba5 (OLD)- .6 pts
  • Native bba5 (new)- 1 pts
  • NativeBBA5 300K-6pts
  • p121_2SPZ - 1.39 pts
  • p122_2ABD - 3.54 pts
  • p123_1APS - 3.5 pts
  • p124_1UBQ - 1.89 pts
  • p125_I6c - .69 pts
  • p127_wwext - 2 pts
  • p128_wwmut- 2 pts
  • p129_1IGD - 2 pts
  • p131_2SPZunf - 1.4 pts
  • p132_2ABDunf - 2.8 pts
  • p133_1APSunf - 3.5 pts
  • p134_1UBQunf - 1.9 pts
  • p135_1I6Cunf - .7 pts
  • p136_1SHFunf - 1.3 pts
  • p137_1L2Yunf - .6 pts
  • p138_1L2Ynative -.6 pts
  • p139_1L2Yunf - .6 pts
  • p140_1L2Yunf - .6 pts
  • p141_1L2Yunf - .6 pts
  • p142_1L2Yunf - .6 pts
  • p143_1L2Yunf -. 6 pts
  • p144_1L2Yunf - .6 pts
  • p145_1L2Yunf - .6 pts
  • p146_1L2Yunf - 6 pts
  • p603_bba5F8W_ext_298 - 1.5 pts
  • p604_bba5F8W_ext_278 - 1.5 pts
  • P700_Src/Peptide- 2.5 pts
  • P701_Src/Peptide - 2.5 pts
  • p702_Src/Peptide(Leu->Ala) - 2.5 pts
  • P703_Src/Peptide(Leu->Ala) - 2.5 pts
  • p704_Src/Peptide(Asn->Ala) - 2.5 pts
  • P705_Src/Peptide(Asn->Ala) - 2.5 pts
  • P706_Src/Peptide(Tyr->Ala) - 2.5 pts
  • P707_Src/Peptide(Tyr->Ala) - 2.5 pts
  • PHE Sidechain-Amber- .6 pts
  • PHE Sidechain-Charmm - .6 pts
  • PolyGln - 1 pt
  • PolyQ50 - 1.9 pts
  • protienA - 5 pts
  • proteinAnat - 5 pts
  • proteinAg29a - 5 pts
  • ProtienAg29aNat - 5 pts
  • RNA_9bp_hairpin - 4.2 pts
  • Ser Sidechain-Charmm - .3 pts
  • THR Sidechain-Amber - .6 pts
  • TRP sidechain-CHARMM - .6 pts
  • TRP Sidechain-OPLSAA - .6 pts
  • Trptophan zipper- 1 pts
  • TYR Sidechain-CHARMM - .3 pts
  • TYR Sidechain-OPLSAA - .6 pts
  • TYR Sidechain-Amber - .3 pts
  • VAL Sidechain-Amber - .6 pts
  • VAL Sidechain-CHARMM - .6 pts
  • VAL Sidechain-OPLSAA - .3 pts
  • Villin- 2 pts
  • Villin Head Piece - 2 pts
  • Water TIP3P Model - .3 pts
 
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How to Set up a Dedicated Folding box

Thanks go out to Sickboy for piecing this little how to together;

::Reference Thread>>The Official 'Dedicated Folding Box How-to' Thread

OK, here's a recipe for getting a dedicated folding box running (using Win98).

You'll need one of each of these for each dedicated folder you want to set up:

Mobo/Processor/Heatsink/RAM
Minimum 500 MB HDD/IDE cable
Video card
LAN card (if not integrated) and cable
PSU, also a power switch if ATX. Case is optional, but suggested.
Win98 License for extra box

And just one of each of these:
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
CDROM/cable
Floppy/cable
Win98 CD

Assemble everything, including the floppy, CDROM, monitor and keyboard/mouse. Connect it to your network.

First step: Boot from a Win98 bootdisk. If not already done, run fdisk and create one partition on your HDD, reboot and run

format c: /s

which will make the drive bootable. After that's done, change to the C drive and type in

mkdir win98

which makes a blank folder called win98 on your hard disk. Then enter

copy d:\win98 c:\win98

Replace "d" with whatever letter the CDROM drive is. This copies all necessary files from the CDROM to the hard drive (should say "Copied 101 files when it's done). At this point I also suggest copying any drivers you need for network, chipset and video as well as Winzip or other zipping program. Copy the setup file for VNC and the FAH2Console.exe at this point as well.

Shut the box off. Disconnect floppy and CDROM. Go into your bios and disable "Boot up floppy seek" or the like.

Boot the machine. type in

cd win98

and then

setup

Run Win98 setup. Select the custom install and install only what you need to run Folding. Uncheck everything else. Let installer finish, enter info when prompted.

Once that's done, install your drivers and do all the necessary reboots. Install Winzip. Make sure your computer is visible on your network. Under the Network properties, make sure you have "Share my files with others" checked, and the logon should be the Windows logon. Share the C drive full access (with a password if you so choose). Set everything up so the computer can connect to your internet access of choice. Remember that all your necessary Win98 files are in your c:\win98 directory. Just point it there when it asks for the CD.

Unzip VNC and set it up. Create a shortcut to the WinVNC and place it in your startup folder so that VNC automatically starts up when you boot the computer.

Now reboot the computer a few times and make sure it boots into Windows and starts the VNC server up without any user input. Once that's done, you can disconnect the keyboard, mouse and monitor.

Connect to your folding box through VNC and run the FAH2Console with the -config switch the first time. Enter the necessary data, make sure it downloads a work unit aand starts folding, and away you go!!

Note: when you reboot it, you'll need a mouse and keyboard connected to it. But if you just let it run 24/7 it should be alright without them connected.

That should be it!!
 

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Future expansions - addendums - additions

To all those who contributed to the current FAQ's/Projects/How-To's and those who would like to contribute please feel free to drop either I or Mr. B a line and send on the pertinent info you think would be helpful to this thread, this is an attempt to 'unclutter' the Folding Stickies and centralize all the info in one spot.

Again it is far from done, but always a work in progress, feel free to add or revise to anything that is there as well.

Thanks for all the help that went into doing this.

J :cool:
 
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Flyers!

Help spread the news about folding and get the word out about the TEAM 32.

Here's two great flyers from fellow folders:

BamBam's Flyers

IdeaMagnate's Poster

Hand them out and help the cause!


FOLD ON
NAS
 
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How much $$$ for 24/7 computing.

I know a whole bunch of folders out there are asked this question by parents, wives, fellow folders, and even yourself. So I popped out the Ampprobe, took some average readings, did a little research and here is what I came up with.

To start off. We need to understand some formulas and definitions. One of the most basic formulas used in electricity is P = IE where P is Power, I is Ioda or Current, and E is Electromotive Force.

Definions.

Power is the rate at which work is done, in this case we are talking about electrical push which is measured in watts.

Ioda is the movement of electrons through a conductor. This is measured in amps.

Force is the relation between energy and charge which results in electric pressure,
this is also called voltage.

Another basic electical formulas is ohm's law, which is E = IR where R is resistence or ohm's, and I and E are the same as above.


Through basic factoring, you can find any of the four if you have two of the values.

P = IE | I = P/E | E = P/I AND E = IR | I = E/R | R = E/I


**Note: If you are concerned with an exact measurement of power used you need to add the power factor to the left side of the formula below. Thanks Gator. For most of us the following example is close enough.

Here is an example using a typical folding computer, 300w supply @ .75 running amps and 17" moni. @ 1 running amp, takes about 1.75 amps to run after initial startup.

These amp readings were taking directly from one of my pcs that is just folding!
Volts * Amps = Watts. So 1.75A x 120V = 210 watts.

Now to convert this to kilowatt hours...
Say we want your pc to run 24/7...
Take watts x 24 to get the watt hours. this = 5040 and divide by 1000 and you have got 5.04 kwh.

Then take the kwh per day and times this by the number of days in a month (30.4 average days per month). 30.4 * 5.04 = 153.22 kwh per month.

An average charge per kwh is $.065.

.065 * 153.22 = $9.96

This is your "average" monthly charge if you were to leave your rig and monitor on 24/7.

This price drops down to $4.98, I won't go though the #s again, if you average only 3 hours a day with your monitor on.

Okay..well alot of us have our monitor on more to watch yatta
back-to-back-to-back......but this is for the average family. To get an estimate for yourself take the hours you leave you monitor on per day (say this is X). (Y) is the total number of hours that your rig stays on. Then crack out the calc and compute (4x + 3y) x 30 / 1000 x 30.4 x .065 = rough est. cost to run your pc per month.

I hope this helps people out when you are thinking about folding 24/7 and wonder how much it costs.

Fold On all!

Thanks to Exar Jun for providing this information.
 
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Beta Team Rules...

First rule about beta team:

1. Don't talk about Beta team ;)


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At the strong urging of the mods and pandegroup, they humbly ask that there be no mention of the beta team outside of the beta forum at the community boards.

If you wish to join the beta team head over to the community boards, HERE , and PM a moderator and ask them to place you in the beta team user group.

Once you are in the beta team post your results within the beta team forum. It is essential that if you are on the beta team, that you post your results there if you have any problems whatsoever. This way the pandegroup can work on the clients and WU's and have then ready to go out 'into the wild', so everyone can work on them and stanford can get the results that they need for the folding cause.

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What is the purpose of a beta?

Whenever we have something new (a new core, new work unit, new server
code, etc.), we put it through an internal testing process. Still, there
may be problems we do not catch, often because we cannot possibly test on
all types of system configurations. A volunteer "Beta Team" fills the
need.

from the beta FAQ
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FOLD ON
NAS
 
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