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[Bad Maniac]

Not only this MS Vista horror, but in the next year both Intel and AMD are going to go through like, what? 2 Socket generations each?

So Joe Consumer, who wants to buy a PC today and gets one with a "Vista Ready" sticker on it will not only get a PC that is unable to run Vista, but also in all likelyhood a PC that, once Vista does hit, is 2 generations out of fashion. So his upgrade parts will either be impossible to find and/or cost triple their current price...
This is great news for us in the PC retail market. Not only do we have to learn 4 sets of new architecture in a year, we'll also have to take Judo lessons to survive the onslaught of angry customers once to brown stuff hits the fan.

 

[hkgonra]

I guess for ONCE the guys at BB won't be ripping you off when they tell you that you REALLY do need the $1000 box instead of the $299 one if you want to be able to run vista.

 

[z0n3]

I guess for ONCE the guys at BB won't be ripping you off when they tell you that you REALLY do need the $1000 box instead of the $299 one if you want to be able to run vista.

It will still be a rip off.

This whole situation stinks. I plan on buying Vista (me= Microsoft drone) but all the problems it is causing (before it is even released no less!) are starting to annoy me.

 

[Sliver]

I don't think the fixing they need to do after that source code got leaked a couple years ago is making things easier.

 

[Mooyo]

I guess for ONCE the guys at BB won't be ripping you off when they tell you that you REALLY do need the $1000 box instead of the $299 one if you want to be able to run vista.

We aren't all soul-less demons you know.

 

[skou]

Every thing I've read about Vista, makes me hug my 2000 CD even more!

If I HAVE to upgrade in the future, I'm going to be seriously looking into a tux wearing Penguin! (but then, how do we know he isn't wearing a tux?)(For all you PHC Fans.)

steve

 

[kd7aze]

We aren't all soul-less demons you know.

And then I remember the story of a BB employee who sold this old lady 5 service plans to go with her computer. They didn't care, they were getting paid extra for it.

 

[Bad Maniac]

If I HAVE to upgrade in the future, I'm going to be seriously looking into a tux wearing Penguin!

Yeah if Linux would run every piece of Windows software, and was as user friendly it might be an option. There are ok-ish distros but they are infinitely more easy to screw up than Windows 2K or XP, this needs to change before Joe average can use them.

 

[greenmaji]

If you have no OS on your computer what exactly do you have to lose by trying to get a FREE one to work exactly? your time? Is that much of your time worth the MSRP of a retail copy of Vista? If so, the argument holds water, if not, I would check out what the freebies had to offer..
enough of that.. Vista seems to be a bloated hog, Oh well, I havnt installed any OS (including free disto's) that I didnt do at least some cleanup of things that were useless to me. Heck I know Regedit (I have a shortcut on my desktop HA!) like it was Word, I say bring the bloat ON!

 

[>HyperlogiK<]

I don't think the fixing they need to do after that source code got leaked a couple years ago is making things easier.

I have never understood this concept? Why does the leaking of sourcecode ever entail recoding? Valve claimed that about Halflife 2, when in fact it seemed that it needed recoding because it wasn't properly finished and needed heavily optimised. Surely if the most secure operating systems avaliable (like Open BSD) can be secure with completely open source code, the only reason microsoft might have had to make code changes after the leaking of the Win 2000 source was because the Win 2000 code wasn't very good anyway, and the leak just made people more aware of it.

 

[hafa]

I think one factor that many have missed in this thread is the perceived need on the part of Joes that "Vista is new, so is better".

Regardless of the merits of any given operating system, the public will demand Vista on their new machines. I'll be taking a "middle path" in this regard, telling customers that they should wait if at all possible to allow some time for the OS to "work out the initial bugs". This will accomplish two things:

1. It will allow time for the bugs to get worked out
2. It will give some time for the dust from the platform changes to settle

In the meantime, if a customer must have a machine today, I've upped my minimum configuration (base machine) to include 1Gig of RAM, a 160GB HDD and at least a 6600GT/X1600 equivalent video card. This should ensure a good Vista experience for all those who need to buy today.