But my CPU was a dog right from the get go
I remember that "Johan45". You came into the forum and it seemed yours was the worst FX-8350 we had ever heard of. There was one other of them about that same time that did not seem much better. Otherwise most FX-8350 seemed better than any other Vishera.
I know at first I gave my FX-8350 a 5 on the 10 scale. Then as I used and benched it I felt it was at least an 8, I thought. And then at 4.8 and video edittig, I felt it was a 10. So much so did I like the 4.8Ghz video editting that I just about refused to push it really high again just for the heck of it and risk a pretty good cpu.
Then we tried to talk "Joni" out of using his FX-8350 but to get his money back and then even though it was not a 1.272 Volt Cpu his FX-8350 started to look like a pretty good piece of silicon for sure.
I did the short thread on using Cpu offset voltage just because it was something that was used by some on the Deneb processors and seemed to work to keep the Vcore lower most of the time unless just pushed. But on my CHV board it did not seem to do exactly what I wanted it to do. I went back to manual and Ultra-High on the CPU LLC and though it will not lower the voltage unloaded like runnng cpu offset voltage will, it seems more predictable. I think it is because the CHV Cpu LLC seems to work backwards from the other lower tiered boards of even Asus but most of the other brands as well.
We spend so much time trying to get all these users with tell me how to overclock when there are thousands of How-Tos out there that we seldom do what this threads is doing and take the time to hammer on what is happening with a board and a cpu. Or similar situations.
I always thought motherboards of a brand and model would all be alike. I think I was vrey wrong. If cellphones or radios varied as much as motherboards seem to do, then we would never get a connection to a dialed number or get a specific radio station. Hehehe.
A few times I got a couple of DFI motherboards with consecutive serial numbers. They were sent me that way from the assembly line. They would do pretty much the same if I stuck the same cpu and ram in them. I have gotten the same model motherboard with serial numbers very far apart and they may well be pretty much alike or vary big time. I never found out 'the' why of such actions. I know how the robots assemble the boards and the container after container of parts are placed on the boards and you would think they would all be alike.
C_D has more than one CHV of the early type with no -z in the model number. He has changed out the board that he has used as HIS bench board that he writes about in here and no matter which one of the CHV boards he uses...his stuff does not act like mine. So is it the board that makes for odd stuff or is it the fact he swapped the boards but not the cpus and ram and power supply and all of that which remains the same after swapping thru a couple of the same model of motherboard and the same bios on each?
All of his CHV boards run better than most of the cheaper boards we see all the time. But they never run just like mine. We have swapped settings between us and still his multiple CHV boards never run just like mine or my CHV never seems to run just like his.
And then I put the Asrock Fatal1ty board together with an FX-6300 and got a real eye-opener on cpus. No matter what, I could not get the FX-6300 to impress me. Too much Vcore needed, I thought. With my cooling I was not really able to recognize the FX-6300 being much cooler. AND THEN, I put my FX-8350 in the Asrock FatLady board as C_D and I affectionately call her and she did well with the FX-8350 until I was testing P95 Blend up the ladder. Some how and I have not found the answer yet, I lost my way and after a testing everything I could, I thought my FX-8350 had LOST a step. You know slowed! I was sure my FX-8350 had slowed.
Then I put the FX-8350 back on my CHV and she took off like a rocket again. I am certain now that I know what happened. The FX-8350 was not using exactly the same software monitored voltages and the CPU LLC works backwards from the CHV and I was trying to HOP from one speed to another in large jumps and I just got lost. Could not seem to find my way again until I got back to my darling CHV board. Hehehe. What a dunce I am.
So what the heck is all this text about? Learn the principles. When you know the principles, test; then test and after that test our stuff again. Only working with the board and cpu one plans to use can he find out what his system will really do. Each of us that knows the principles very well can try and offer suggestions for go fast, but only the one with the keyboard hooked up to the system can prove out each system. Even after all that you can swap boards and be a klutz like I think I was with my FX-8350 and the Fatal1ty board.
RGone...
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