Intel also had a performance increase in Ashes Of The Singularity http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-game-optimization-aots-escalation,34021.html
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Could you (or someone else with an Asrock B350 or X370 board besides the Fatal1ty Professional) tell me whether the CPU temperature reported on your board is the actual chip temperature, or if it's a motherboard sensor? The easiest way to see is to open Ryzen Master and the Asrock monitoring utility and then start Prime95 and see if what the board is reporting for CPU matches what Ryzen Master is reporting.
I'm trying to figure out if the Fatal1ty Pro reporting from a motherboard sensor is a bug that might be fixed, or if this is just how Asrock does things? Strange as it may seem, not being able to set my fan rotation directly off the CPU core temperature sensor is basically a deal breaker for me. My case has super high RPM fans to provide max performance when needed, so I need to be able to choke them back under idle/low load conditions and know they'll still spin up when needed. A motherboard based CPU sensor responds too slowly to be useful in that regard.
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Yay! Two percent gain for Intel! It's amazing and life changing!
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In my case I didn't find any difference between the NH-D15 and ambient water cooling. The CPU wasn't that hot to begin with and it hits the voltage limit before the cooling limit. That was my experience with 3 CPUs
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I can't find any "Asrock monitoring utility" at the ASRock website. Here's what is listed:
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Have you bothered to submit feedback to them?
There is the possibility that they don't want to add to the confusion... One took that reports real temperatures vs just reporting what the sensor tells them. Just a thought.
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It's actually part of the F-Stream Tuning Utility on my board. It's odd there's not a non-branded version for your board. No big deal though, HWInfo and Speedfan both should be able to read the board sensors too, I think. Thanks for the help, by the way.
Also, I think it's sort of funny how the motherboard box on the Fatal1ty boards says "made in collaboration with Fata1ity", when the boards are apparently identical to cheaper non-branded ones. I guess he was instrumental in picking out... the color scheme? I should probably stop harping on this, but I really don't understand this "brand", and why it would actually appeal to anyone.
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Yes, I gave them feedback just like I did to ASRock for their BIOS issues and FireWire for AIDA64.
Please explain how could it be confusing for anyone if they show the proper temperature? Its confusing now, right? They know what CPU it is so ........
Leave it as read for the 1700
Subtract 20C for 1700X and 1800X
Its not that hard to do.
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Example 1: person expects a 20 deg offset as AMD stated. Software reports 60C. Is it assumed that is correct or is that with the offset? It adds more problems to the mix if you ask me.
Additionally, if AMD decides to change the offset with a microcode update, then HWmonitor is now wrong. IMO it's better to just report the data given and let the person figure it out. The software is merely relaying the temperature as it reads it.
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This. A false high is safer than a false low.
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I concur, but they did. If I had to maintain a program that monitored CPU temp, I wouldn't code the offset. I think it would just create a pending issue (did and adjust the offset with a microcode update? Did they remove it?) That may or may not need to be resolved vs just reporting what info I can poll.
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Your thinking is typical of how things get effed up today. Being wrong is never a good thing, doing it intentionally is just plain ignorant. If AMD fixes it, CPUID can fix HWMonitor in a few minutes of coding - just undo what they do now to make it read correctly.
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Let's look at this ignorance:
-Software that is designed to report current values from various sensors.
-Software then reports values received from sensors.
What is wrong with that? Functioning as intended. Tell AMD to fix their sensor. Not the fault of sensor reading software. Why make a broken system even more broken by adding more fuss to the mess? Or better idea, I can write a program that compounds the issue to recursively add complexity to the situation until it reads 0K degrees. Let's do that.
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Nope from what I understand AMD did it to try and force higher fan speeds which would in turn force the chip to boost higher.
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Am I the only one who thinks this is huge? This opens the door for a lot more people to throw their chip against the wall until it squeals without the investment in Big Water.
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I'm still gonna put mine on a 280 rad and punch it a bit. Just gotta get a block that will work with it!
I don't think the software utility's programmers care. AMD does not care about the temperature or the minuscule percentage of us.
With the updated HWmonitor it shows Motherboard Vcore only all the rest of the voltages are off and say VIN 1-8. They just don't give a crap anymore.
With the updated HWmonitor it shows Motherboard Vcore only all the rest of the voltages are off and say VIN 1-8. They just don't give a crap anymore.
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