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.... if it was an x16 card. IIRC, its 4.0 x8 so.... seems right.PS: it's normal your GPU turn on x8 ? To many disk or something ?
First xmp... now this? What have you been doing here for 17 years?!
.... if it was an x16 card. IIRC, its 4.0 x8 so.... seems right.
4.0 x16 or 5.0 x16 won't yield improvements. Think of it like expanding the pipe/bandwidth but the water/data flow in it remains the same. 4060/4060ti can't saturate 4.0 x8 so making the pipe bigger doesn't matter.
Edit: even with a 4090, the difference between 4.0 x16 and 3.0 x16 (same as 4.0 x8) is only ~2% at 4K.
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Would you have chosen differently if you did?So you're telling me the 4060 is both an 8x card AND only PCIe 4.0??! Well... I wish I'd known THAT. hahahahaha
Is there some sort of chart out there of the whole 4000 series and what's 8x and what's 16x and what's PCIe 4.0 and what's PCIe 5.0?
Would you have chosen differently if you did?
Why?Yes. I would've gotten the 3070.
Why?
What would buying a 4.0 x16 card (from the previous gen) get you?
At the time we talked about picking GPUs it was a toss between the 4060 and the 3070 which is a fair bit faster for roughly the same price. Think a 6800xt was also mentioned (which I definitely would've picked), but was slightly more expensive.Why?
What would buying a 4.0 x16 card (from the previous gen) get you?
Sure, I remember that. But 3070s are quite a bit more expensive (in the states?). Newegg shows $389 for the least expensive 3070 and $279 for a 4060. To me, that's a lot more than 'roughly the same'.At the time we talked about picking GPUs it was a toss between the 4060 and the 3070 which is a fair bit faster for roughly the same price. Think a 6800xt was also mentioned (which I definitely would've picked), but was slightly more expensive.
Shows now, we don't know if he got a good deal or something at the time No idea about the PCI-E, maybe buyers remorse? If so In fairness I got the same with my Strix 980ti when I found out it was the only model (AFAIK) that was power locked and needed a shunt mod for better OCs (still a beast though, no mistake)Sure, I remember that. But 3070s are quite a bit more expensive (in the states?). Newegg shows $389 for the least expensive 3070 and $279 for a 4060. To me, that's a lot more than 'roughly the same'.
But the actual question posed is, why would PCIe 4.0 x16 vs. x8 change your mind?
Maybe. But he would have to get one helluva deal on a new 3070 to make it 'roughly the same price', considering the $110 (~40%) difference. Regardless, the price has nothing to do with what he said/my follow-up question.Shows now, we don't know if he got a good deal or something at the time
At the time we talked about picking GPUs it was a toss between the 4060 and the 3070 which is a fair bit faster for roughly the same price. Think a 6800xt was also mentioned (which I definitely would've picked), but was slightly more expensive.
Sure, I remember that. But 3070s are quite a bit more expensive (in the states?). Newegg shows $389 for the least expensive 3070 and $279 for a 4060. To me, that's a lot more than 'roughly the same'.
But the actual question posed is, why would PCIe 4.0 x16 vs. x8 change your mind? Sure, buy a 3070 because it's faster, but because of the interface?
Shows now, we don't know if he got a good deal or something at the time No idea about the PCI-E, maybe buyers remorse? If so In fairness I got the same with my Strix 980ti when I found out it was the only model (AFAIK) that was power locked and needed a shunt mod for better OCs (still a beast though, no mistake)
Maybe. But he would have to get one helluva deal on a new 3070 to make it 'roughly the same price', considering the $110 (~40%) difference. Regardless, the price has nothing to do with what he said/my follow-up question.
It could be buyer's remorse, sure... but why is he remorseful over PCIe lanes?? I can't think of a valid reason and looking for some clarity OR talk him down off the ledge of regrets as needed, lol.
EDIT: FTR, he was comparing USED 3070s versus NEW 4060s in his thread. Otherwise, these aren't close in price.
Obviously? God only knows what is or isn't in your head, lol. Thank you for clarifying.As for WHY the PCIe 16 thing would've swayed me one way or the other... It's not JUST the 16x thing... obviously... it's the performance.
FTR, we discussed the 6800XT in posts BEFORE I said that. There were a couple of posts before where you knew about its performance and price... I think we mentioned power use/noise. At that point, you just needed to make a decision. Knowing one was x8 vs x16 SHOULDN'T (IMO) have been a part of the decision-making process in the first place. Kenrou wouldn't have saved you (on this topic). Again, not what I'm asking, and sure as **** never wanted to bring it up (nor do I want to discuss or reply).There was also a 6800XT mentioned... It was 399. But when I asked about it I got some kind of flippant answer out of Earthdog (I'm not trippin'... that's just a fact) so I wound up sticking with my 4060 order. (I believe my exact words were: "HEY... I can either cancel this order for the 4060 and get the 6800XT instead... or I can do nothing and let the 4060 come." Earthdog said something along the lines of "You're a big boy, just make a decision." So I just did nothing. (Which, had Kenrou chimed in riggghhhht THERE, would've changed everything. Somebody did later... but it was too late. It was like a flash sale or something.)
They are a different class of cards. I said that in the thread, lol....then I would've cancelled the order. Because that would've given me the impression that either of those were in a different class of cards and it was probably more in my best interest to go that route.
Performance is what it is, regardless of the interface or 'class'. But that's the problem sometimes—people's 'impressions' aren't facts. So, blame me all you want, but it's misplaced. Had you been told x8/x16 in the thread, we'd have the same conversation (it doesn't matter), and you'd be asked the same question (what makes x8/x16 relevant at all?).
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As for WHY the PCIe 16 thing would've swayed me one way or the other... It's not JUST the 16x thing... obviously... it's the performance.