PIIx6 1055t [email protected] w/ CM 212 evo |OC for new graphics card (gtx970).

[azorGFX]

Hi, first time overclocker here, I oc'd my cpu without overvolting (mobo on auto overvolted but i maunaly entered stock values), i just wan't to know if my settings/temps are good and if i should overclock further.
I'm overclocking becouse i recently upgraded my mobo for FX-8350 but i don't have the money for it and want to buy a new graphics card first, i'm planning to buy a gtx970 and i know that it will be bottlenecked on my current cpu but how much? Will my current oc counter the bottleneck and if not how far should i push that cpu to counter it? My current settings in photos from UEFI.

I tried settings from this video:

and they gave me bsod on win10x64 after ~10 seconds of prime95
I also tried 3,8OC with settings from linus and just bus freq turned down to 272, stresstesting with p95 for ~1,5h passed with 0 errors on all cores but temps reached ~68 on the cores and ~85 ~45 on chipset (readouts from OHW), i wan't to try 272 bus freq with current settings, i will post results.

SS from stresstest:


And from UEFI:




My current PC Configuration:
Windows 10 64bit
Corsair 230t
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0
Corsair CX500M
Phenom II x6 1055t @3,5Ghz
CoolerMaster 212 evo
Radeon HD5770 1gb
ADATA 2x2GB 1600
Samsung 840 evo 120gb
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM

 

[RGone]

AS long as you post images "like" the ones, I am trying to view now, I doubt you get much response since the image is so small even when I try and view the 'raw' image, the image is for all practical purposes; unreadable.

 

[trents]

azor, those images are too small for us to make them out. If you are trying to take pics of the bios screens you may be able to press the F12 key and save them to a thumb drive. Sometimes images captured like that are larger than the forum attachment tool will allow so you may need to reduce the size of the file first. There are lots of free image "resampling" tools out there but the one I like is called "Irfanview". It does a lot of other photo manipulation things too but the key word is "resample". Resampling just removes pixels in order to shrink file size but does not change the aspect or dimensions of the image.

If you are trying to attach images from the Windows desktop then the easiest way is to use the Snipping Tool in Windows Accessories. With it you can crop away unwanted desktop area and then save the image to file for attachement.

When diagnosing overclock instability problems we like to see attachments of CPU-z tabs: CPU, Memory and SPD as well as an image of HWMonitor taken after at least 15 minutes of a Prime95 blend run.

 

[azorGFX]

Images are in pretty decent size, just my hosting sucks and you have to click on them to make them bigger, desktop ss is a full size ss from a 1280x1024+1920x1080 displays so it can't be too small to view, if it's easier here they are on imgur:
album:

https://imgur.com/a/BsU7f

individual full size pics

https://imgur.com/dBuS0Pm

https://imgur.com/gJnNWWs

https://imgur.com/RuaPDSU

https://imgur.com/J1ffuwT

 

[Mandrake4565]

azor please use the inforum hosting tool, a lot of people cannot click on images from outside sources. In advanced posting just click on the paper clip and upload them.

 

[azorGFX]

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[trents]

Please supply the other two CPU-z tab pics: "Memory" and "SPD" as reqeusted. We don't have all the info we need. One thing that's apparent right away is that you are running your RAM frequency at 1666 when it may only be rated for 1600.

Please make a separate post of those three CPU-z images. You have given us one of CPU-z tab "CPU" but it is too small to be able to see the values. Don't superimpose images on top of one another like that please. Resize them appropriately on the desktop and then crop them with Snipping Tool before capturing them.

 

[azorGFX]

Other option is to run it at ~1370, is that 66mhz really making much diference?

@edit images are not overlayed, i had programs open at the same time and then i took the screenshot, but if you want me to cut them to peaces for you then no problem.

 

[azorGFX]

I know that, with the 3,8 oc on 272 fsb i've had it on 1333 and it multiplied to about 1570, i thought that as long as i don't stress ram much it will be ok, ram is rated 1600 is running it at 1666 very bad?

 

[Johan45]

Well it appears to be stable but to me you're running out of cooling. The cores are at 55c it looks like and that is usually where we would asvide you to stop unless you can improve cooling either with a new CPU cooler or airflow in the case etc...

 

[trents]

If you give the RAM a little extra voltage, say move it from 1.5 to 1.55 it should handle a little overclock like that and that little amount of voltage increase will in know way harm the RAM. But if you would overclock the CPU much more you probably will need to move the RAM frequency to a lower notch. Actually, you are about to the overclock limit of that CPU. You have moved it from 2.7 to over 3.5 ghz and that is about all you can expect. For future reference, please use HWMonitor (non pro version) rather than Open HWMonitor.

When you post, the attachments we typically need to see are:

1. HWMonitor just after a stress test
2. CPU-z tabs: : "CPU", "Memory" and "SPD"

We don't normally need a lot of the other pics you attached. Keep it simple. We can tell what most of the bios settings are by looking at the CPU-z pics.

If I were you I would uninstall the Asus overclocking/monitoring software. It has a huge reputation for being buggy and causing instability.

Package (aka, "core") temps we like to keep under 60c. CPU (aka, "socket") temps we like to keep under 70c.

 

[trents]

I agree with Johann45. When you get your FX-8350 you will for sure need better cooling. And any additional OC room you may have with your current CPU will also need better cooling in order to be realized.

I'm wondering if you would benefit from reseating and repasting your present cooler. Those temps seem higher than they should be for the amount of voltage your are using. One thing that Open HWMonitor is not showing that I can see is what is the max vcore under load. If you would run the Prime95 blend test for 20 minutes with HWMonitor open and then post back with an attached pic of HWMonitor it would be helpful.

 

[azorGFX]

Ok, so it seems i'm done with the oc, 55 core 68 socket, and can you gus tell me what can i expect when upgrading to gtx970? How much will it be bottlenecked?

@trents:
At first i won't oc the 8350 and i've seen people running it stock with 212 evo + my psu won't really allow me to oc it anyway, when i upgrade cooling and psu i will oc 8350.

 

[trents]

Yeah the hyper 212 evo will be fine for the FX-8350 stock settings. How much of any the current CPU will bottleneck the GTX 970 is hard to say. It will vary from game to game depending on whether or not the game is very CPU dependent and with what part of the game you happen to be playing.

 

[Johan45]

I just checked out your case azor and it looks to be a nice one. You may want to add a couple more fans and get a good airflow going through it. The 8350 will definately be hotter than your current CPU and you'll likely want to add some cooling to the front and back of the motherboard in the CPU/VRM area. I have an M5A99FX ProR2 and it'll run the FX just fine but as I said it'll get hot.

 

[azorGFX]

Hi, it's me again, i tried to rise that clock to 3.8, my temperatures are allright but when i tried to run cinebench R11,5 it crashes with error below.
Previous scores:
stock: 4.85
3.5: 5.8
Settings all the same, i changed bus and ram frequency only.
HWm and OHWm ss after ~5m of p95 and then cinebench crash.


@edit i don't know if you need it but i also benchmarked with in-game bench from tomb raider 2013:
stock:
min: 52 98 82,7
tuned: 50 82 67
oc 3,5:
min: 64 96 80,9
tuned: 52 84 67,6
oc 3,8
min: 64 102 83
tuned: 52 84 67,7

I don't think this is good benchmark, cpu was mostly just sitting there around 20-40% all cores, i just wanted a quick way to monitor performance, if you would like to see other numbers i can provide.
SS with tuned settings below, sorry for Polish, i don't have the game in English.

 

[Mandrake4565]

You're crashing because it isn't stable, either due to lack of voltage or it's too hot. Not much more to say, using a game isn't a good reference to see if it's stable. Solution: either lower the OC and get it stable or get better cooling and get it stable.

 

[trents]

If you're getting temps that high just from running Cinebench you can bet they will be even higher with Prime95 which is our gold standard for stability. No need to include pics of Open HWMonitor. We would rather see plain HWMonitor.