G.SKILL Updates Trident Z Neo DDR4 Specs For Ryzen 5000 Series

G.Skill has just updated its Trident Z Neo DDR4 memory for the upcoming Ryzen 5000 series CPUs. Optimized for extreme frequency, low latency, and high capacity, there are three sets to choose from. The high-speed kits are rated for speeds up to DDR4-4000Mhz with timings set to CL16-19-19-39 32GB (16GBx2). For ultra-low latency, there is the DDR4-3800 CL14-16-16-36 32GB (16GBx2) set. If high capacity is your thing, the new Trident Z Neo also offers a DDR4-4000 CL18-22-22-42 64GB (32GBx2) kit. As with all G.Skill memory, these will come with a limited lifetime warranty. Continue reading for more about the updated G.Skill Trident Z Neo.

 

G.SKILL Updates Trident Z Neo DDR4 Specs Up To DDR4-4000 CL16 16GBx2 for AMD Ryzen 5000 CPUs

(5 November 2020) – G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd., the world’s leading manufacturer of extreme performance memory and gaming peripherals, is announcing new DDR4 memory specifications under the Trident Z Neo series, optimized for the new AMD Ryzen 5000 processors. Featuring ultra-high speeds of up to DDR4-4000 CL16-19-19-39 32GB (16GBx2), extreme low latency at DDR4-3800 CL14-16-16-36 32GB (16GBx2), and high-capacity kit at DDR4-4000 CL18-22-22-42 64GB (32GBx2), these memory kits are the perfect choice for PC enthusiasts and gamers looking to push memory bandwidth to the extreme limits on the new AMD Ryzen 5000 processors.

Optimized for Extreme Frequency, High Capacities, & Low Latency

With the improvements of memory support on the latest AMD Ryzen 5000 processor series, the R&D team at G.SKILL is always looking to push the performance boundaries even further and have expanded the G.SKILL Trident Z Neo series with higher performance options, whether you’re looking for extreme frequencies, high kit capacities, or extreme low latency.

At high memory frequency speed, the Trident Z Neo DDR4-4000 CL16-19-19-39 32GB (16GBx2) raises the memory speed support for AMD platforms to DDR4-4000 from the previous generation of processors. Built with high performance Samsung B-die components, this memory kit also features a low latency of CL16. Seen below, this memory specification can be seen running in 1:1 ratio on the ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero and MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE motherboard with the latest AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X processors.

For high kit capacity, the Trident Z Neo DDR4-4000 CL18-22-22-42 memory kit is available at an astounding 64GB (32GBx2). As seen in the screenshot below, this memory kit behemoth is running at 1:1 ratio on the ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero and the MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE motherboard with the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Ryzen 5 5600X processors.

Pushing the limits on extreme low latency, the Trident Z Neo DDR4-3800 CL14-16-16-36 32GB (16GBx2) kit is the ultimate choice for high efficiency. Engineered with high performance Samsung B-die components, this kit can be seen in the screenshots below running at a ratio of 1:1 on the ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero motherboard with the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X processor.

Availability & Specifications

These ultra-speed, high-capacity, and extreme low latency memory kits will be available via G.SKILL worldwide distribution partners at the end of November 2020. For a full list of released specifications, please see the table below.

About G.SKILL
Established in 1989 by PC hardware enthusiasts, G.SKILL specializes in high performance memory, SSD products, and gaming peripherals designed for PC gamers and enthusiasts around the world. Combining technical innovation and rock solid quality through our in-house testing lab and talented R&D team, G.SKILL continues to create record-breaking memory for each generation of hardware and hold the no. 1 brand title in overclocking memory.

-John Nester (Blaylock)

 

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Are the Neo DDR4-4000 CL16-19-19-39 32GB (16GBx2) available anywhere? I see there is F4-4000C16D-32GTZR but its only QVL'ed for Intel Z490. The article from AMD leads me to believe there should be Neo versions for AMD? https://www.gskill.com/community/15...DDR4-4000-CL16-16GBx2-for-AMD-Ryzen-5000-CPUs

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Expect that many G.Skill kits from press releases won't be ever available. Usually, these top kits never hit the stores.
On the other hand, good luck setting DDR4-4000 1:1. So far I can't make anything above DDR4-3800 and I'm on my 3rd Ryzen 5000.

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Hmm. That's disappointing. I wonder if a BIOS update will fix that or if this is just how the Ryzen 5000 series will be. I hate when people over promise and under deliver. I have 2 packs of F4-3200C14D-16GTZ. I was thinking about trying to get them up to 3600CL16 (maybe CL15) so I can run 1:1. This X570 Asrock Taichi is new to me, so I'll need to read up on it. I was debating just grabbing the F4-4000CL16D-32GTZ pack to keep things simple and enjoy the 4000CL16, but not if it does not exist and cannot run at advertised speeds.

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My limited experience is setting to 3600 1:1 yields the best results. Woomack is a better judge but from what I've read 5000 series is only mildly better than 3000. Iirc 3800 1:1 is about the std setting.

Edit: per amd max supported for both 3000 & 5000 is 3200mhz so anything above that is actually considered an overclock.

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Hmm. That's disappointing. I wonder if a BIOS update will fix that or if this is just how the Ryzen 5000 series will be. I hate when people over promise and under deliver. I have 2 packs of F4-3200C14D-16GTZ. I was thinking about trying to get them up to 3600CL16 (maybe CL15) so I can run 1:1. This X570 Asrock Taichi is new to me, so I'll need to read up on it. I was debating just grabbing the F2-4000CL16D-32GTZ pack to keep things simple and enjoy the 4000CL16, but not if it does not exist and cannot run at advertised speeds.

My first hour on my new AMD system was with the memory at 2133 and a bunch of 22s and honestly it felt fine. Now I have it at 3600 with a bunch of 14s and it still feels fine :shrug:

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Hmm. That's disappointing. I wonder if a BIOS update will fix that or if this is just how the Ryzen 5000 series will be. I hate when people over promise and under deliver. I have 2 packs of F4-3200C14D-16GTZ. I was thinking about trying to get them up to 3600CL16 (maybe CL15) so I can run 1:1. This X570 Asrock Taichi is new to me, so I'll need to read up on it. I was debating just grabbing the F4-4000CL16D-32GTZ pack to keep things simple and enjoy the 4000CL16, but not if it does not exist and cannot run at advertised speeds.

4000 CL16 will run at advertised speeds ... but in most cases not at 1:1 ratio with IF/mem controller what will give you lower than expected performance. Count also that these 4000 CL16 are just a bit higher binned 3200 CL14-14-14 .. or 3600 CL16-16-16.
AMD said that will release AGESA that will help with higher memory clock. I have no idea if they released it already or not as since Ryzen 5000 release, except couple of stability fixes, there was no new AGESA.
I have 3 AM4 motherboards and on all I have +/- the same results, at least till ~DDR4-5200. I tested some more motherboards but some were not mine, some had to go back to the store and some I simply sold because were pretty disappointing. ASRock X570 Taichi seems like a solid option and ASRock usually delivers good BIOS for memory overclocking. For higher series motherboards there are many more BIOS updates and I know that brands like ASRock focus mostly on these high series while tuning BIOS.
I have ASUS CH VIII Impact which just got BIOS 27xx ... that's like 27 BIOS updates with more important changes, excluding betas and other test versions. It still didn't get a new AGESA since Ryzen 5000 release. The only updates mention stability and compatibility fixes.

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4000 CL16 will run at advertised speeds ... but in most cases not at 1:1 ratio with IF/mem controller what will give you lower than expected performance. Count also that these 4000 CL16 are just a bit higher binned 3200 CL14-14-14 .. or 3600 CL16-16-16.
AMD said that will release AGESA that will help with higher memory clock. I have no idea if they released it already or not as since Ryzen 5000 release, except couple of stability fixes, there was no new AGESA.
I have 3 AM4 motherboards and on all I have +/- the same results, at least till ~DDR4-5200. I tested some more motherboards but some were not mine, some had to go back to the store and some I simply sold because were pretty disappointing. ASRock X570 Taichi seems like a solid option and ASRock usually delivers good BIOS for memory overclocking. For higher series motherboards there are many more BIOS updates and I know that brands like ASRock focus mostly on these high series while tuning BIOS.
I have ASUS CH VIII Impact which just got BIOS 27xx ... that's like 27 BIOS updates with more important changes, excluding betas and other test versions. It still didn't get a new AGESA since Ryzen 5000 release. The only updates mention stability and compatibility fixes.

Yeah, the 3200CL14 are a great bin, it's my understanding that the Ryzen's run better if the if/mem are clocked higher (1800 for Ryzen 2 and 2000 for Ryzen 3) and the if/mem match 1:1. I may be wrong? I have no experience to back up what I've read.

Everything I am reading seems to agree with you on the AGESA. AMD hasn't released a new AGESA yet and most users cannot get 1:1 ratio with 4000MHz and expect they won't until a new AGESA comes out.

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I ran some tests with AIDA64 and MaxMemm2. The RAM performed better on reads, writes, and latency on at 3600CL16 with the 1:1 FCLK:MCLK than 3200CL14 with 1:1. I attempted to run 3600CL15 but the RAM kept coming up as CL16 in BIOS. I also tried 3866CL16 which Woomack was also able to achieve on Intel and it would post, but the NB frequency dropped to 966 in CPU-Z, the FCLK:MCLK was 1800 / 1933, and the performance was horrible. I presume this isn't the RAM, but is just AMD being picky, but that's just a presumption. Hopefully a new AGESA will be released in the near future and G Skill will start selling the 4000CL16s.

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Ryzen performance is affected much more by memory clock than timings so 3600 even CL18 will be usually faster than 3200 CL14 or anything else. 3600 CL18 can be faster than CL16 if you compare different memory kits.
IF ratio and memory controller ratio can be manually set on most motherboards. If it's not in the main tab then it will be in AMD OC options. At lower memory clocks, up to ~3800, most motherboards will set it automatically at 1:1. When you pass some clock then it will run at 1:2 so have to set it manually.

I wouldn't count on much better results on new AGESA, if we ever get the one that supposed to improve memory OC at 1:1 ratio. Most CPUs seem to be limited anyway. On current AGESA should be still possible to pass 3800 while not all users can even reach that. I just doubt it's a matter of AGESA when IMC is the same as in Ryzen 3000 series and I could make exactly the same max memory clock 1:1 on Ryzen 3900X and 5900X ... with the little difference that on 3900X I could run higher 2x32GB or 4 memory stick kits.

If you have 4x8GB/2x16GB/2x32GB kits then stick with 1:1 ratio but if you have 2x8GB or single rank 2x16GB (only Micron so far) then you may play with a higher memory clock and 1:2 IF ratio but 1800MHz+ memory controller clock. Because of lower latency in Ryzen 5000, these settings give the same or sometimes better results, especially when you can push your RAM to 4800+ CL16/18. It's a matter of various settings and a lot to describe so won't cover it here.

Btw, to run memory at CL13/15/17, you have to disable gear down mode in BIOS.

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Thanks for the feedback. I went back and took another stab at it. I can get 3800CL16 16-16-16-36 to run if I force the fabric to 1900. AIDA64 and MaxMemm2 showed even more improvements over the 3600CL16 as expected. If I attempt to run 3866CL16 and force the fabric to 1933 it won't post. I guess I'm going to stick at 1900.

I have 2 more 8GB sticks of the same ram (a different color) BNIB. I was waiting to open them to see if 4000CL16 was going to become available and stable with the 2000 fabric clock.

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