reinvent the wheel ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3

[mikealaska]

Yea the kitchen table in the living room , its new home !

so i can snip the screen the same way ?

yep thats my son 13 years old ,, honor band trumpet player

 

[trents]

So now, run CPU-z and send us pics of tabs: "CPU", "Memory" and "SPD". Hint, use the Snipping tool to frame the tab pictures, save them to desktop and then upload. By the way, good looking young man there.

Hitting the hay now. Later.

 

[mikealaska]

it was like christmas opening all those boxes , in 6 days here we are !

 

[mikealaska]

OK here they are .

 

[mikealaska]

early Saturday morning,, a bit messy , still working on the fans

 

[mikealaska]

trents ,
i run prime95 and core temp 2 hrs,, poked around them trying to figure them out, i think i saved the information ,, i'm tired now not sure

 

[trents]

early Saturday morning,, a bit messy , still working on the fans

Did you mean early Friday morning? I think you are only one hour different than me time zone wise and it is early Friday morning here. I could be wring, however. Now where is that international date line thing anyway?

Excellent pics! Do you see how much information CPU-z gives about your system hardware and its settings? In the overclocking process CPU-z is so handy because it always gives us a snapshot of the changes we have made in bios as well as the impact one change has on other settings.

 

[trents]

Look at that bottom pic of CPU-z, the "CPU" one. Do you note that it says your Core Speed is only 802.7 mhz ? But your CPU is a 3200 mhz CPU, correct? Why is that. Well, its because in bios you have "Cool N Quiet" enabled. When overclocking we normally tun that off because Cool N Quiet and other power saving technologies don't play well with an oveclocked computer. That's one example of how CPU-z helps us do detective work. Note also the Core voltatge in that same pic. Its at 1.08, far below what you have it set to in bios. The reduced core frequency (clock speed) and core voltage is caused by Cool N Quiet and another "green" power saving technology called C1E. When the processor is idling they down throttle its speed and core voltage to save power. They are what we call "green" technologies. Unfortunately, as I said, they don't play well with overclocking.

 

[trents]

Mike and Daniel we need to see what your "core temps" are "under load". So, open up CoreTemp. Run Prime95 blend test for 15 minutes with CoreTemp open also. Send us a pic of CoreTemp at the end of that time.

 

[mikealaska]

ok, we need to change that , cool n quiet will do,

last night after running prime 95 about 1hr 50 min . the system shut down i caught it in 15 seconds and hit the start button , came right back up ,.

i will start the test after changing CnQ.

 

[mikealaska]

trents

i am trying to copy the page in prime95 , Dan gets home in 30 minutes i will go over the bios and what you need with him .

this is from Prime 95

[Fri Mar 25 13:45:00 2011]
Compare your results to other computers at http://www.mersenne.org/report_benchmarks
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
CPU speed: 3210.73 MHz, 4 cores
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, Prefetch, 3DNow!, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 64 KB
L2 cache size: 512 KB, L3 cache size: 6 MB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
L1 TLBS: 48
L2 TLBS: 512
Prime95 64-bit version 25.11, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 768K FFT length: 12.438 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 15.353 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 17.093 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 21.616 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 26.173 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 32.020 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 36.105 ms.
Best time for 2560K FFT length: 47.780 ms.
Best time for 3072K FFT length: 57.722 ms.
Best time for 3584K FFT length: 69.496 ms.
Best time for 4096K FFT length: 78.654 ms.
Best time for 5120K FFT length: 104.307 ms.
Best time for 6144K FFT length: 132.333 ms.
Best time for 7168K FFT length: 161.706 ms.
Best time for 8192K FFT length: 183.597 ms.
Timing FFTs using 2 threads.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 8.275 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 10.279 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 12.810 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 15.832 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 18.988 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 22.789 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 25.674 ms.
Best time for 2560K FFT length: 34.938 ms.
Best time for 3072K FFT length: 41.128 ms.
Best time for 3584K FFT length: 49.329 ms.
Best time for 4096K FFT length: 55.471 ms.
Best time for 5120K FFT length: 58.248 ms.
Best time for 6144K FFT length: 71.871 ms.
Best time for 7168K FFT length: 87.903 ms.
Best time for 8192K FFT length: 99.522 ms.
Timing FFTs using 3 threads.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 6.321 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 7.167 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 8.265 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 13.698 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 16.288 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 19.050 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 21.159 ms.
Best time for 2560K FFT length: 30.353 ms.
Best time for 3072K FFT length: 34.991 ms.
Best time for 3584K FFT length: 39.869 ms.
Best time for 4096K FFT length: 45.776 ms.
Best time for 5120K FFT length: 40.245 ms.
Best time for 6144K FFT length: 49.237 ms.
Best time for 7168K FFT length: 59.538 ms.
Best time for 8192K FFT length: 67.383 ms.
Timing FFTs using 4 threads.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 5.756 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 6.870 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 7.878 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 12.803 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 15.510 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 17.815 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 19.984 ms.
Best time for 2560K FFT length: 27.726 ms.
Best time for 3072K FFT length: 32.730 ms.
Best time for 3584K FFT length: 37.314 ms.
Best time for 4096K FFT length: 41.902 ms.
Best time for 5120K FFT length: 32.375 ms.
Best time for 6144K FFT length: 39.076 ms.
Best time for 7168K FFT length: 46.965 ms.
Best time for 8192K FFT length: 53.687 ms.
Best time for 58 bit trial factors: 2.202 ms.
Best time for 59 bit trial factors: 2.259 ms.
Best time for 60 bit trial factors: 2.257 ms.
Best time for 61 bit trial factors: 2.446 ms.
Best time for 62 bit trial factors: 2.494 ms.
Best time for 63 bit trial factors: 2.967 ms.
Best time for 64 bit trial factors: 3.337 ms.
Best time for 65 bit trial factors: 4.139 ms.
Best time for 66 bit trial factors: 4.964 ms.
Best time for 67 bit trial factors: 4.904 ms.

 

[mikealaska]

march 25 dads helping load photos,, after changing cool 'n quiet, and C1E to disabled

 

[trents]

Mike, Prime95 is not run for the purpose of a benchmark. It is run to put your processor and memory under stress. so as to check to see if you core temps are acceptable under load. We're really not interested in how long it took you to run x number of Prime95 tests. Also, when you stared Prime95 for the first time it should have asked you: "Do your want to search for prime number something, something or are you just stress testing?" I wanted you to choose "just stess testing." Run Prime blend test for 10-15 minutes with CoreTemp open and then report to us what the maximum core temp was during that run.

 

[mikealaska]

core temps was 118 f

yes i understand i was playing around trying to figure this out Dan is here helping , ok we did that ,, what you asked but we lost the logs i run the just stress test blend for 54 minutes 20 minutes ago

 

[mikealaska]

trust me we are both glued to this process ,, you have our undivided attention

daniel did the bios , i believe it or not read the user guide

 

[trents]

We prefer to talk in Centigrade terms. You can switch that over in CoreTemp. Before you start overclocking we need to know what your core temps are at stock speeds and voltages. That gives us an idea of how much head room temp wise you have to overclock. It would also alert us to potential problems with your CPU heatsink not being seated correctly or the thermal paste not being applied correctly.

When you start to increases speeds an voltage sin overclocking the temps start to climb and we want to stay within safe limits.

 

[trents]

So 118F is about 47-48C. You have about 10C of overclocking headroom. I had hoped for more.

 

[mikealaska]

ok we will do the switch and make another run ,, we can get a snap shot at 15 minutes , ok

do you think a better cooler is needed? or adjustment ? i used the zalman super thermal grease#zmstg2,,,,
i have some Arctic Alumina by Artic Silver,, premium ceramic polysynthetic thermal compound ,, should i use that ?

 

[trents]

ok we will do the switch and make another run ,, we can get a snap shot at 15 minutes , ok

do you think a better cooler is needed? or adjustment ? i used the zalman super thermal grease#zmstg2,,,,
i have some Arctic Alumina by Artic Silver,, premium ceramic polysynthetic thermal compound ,, should i use that ?

I wish you had purchased a different cooler in the first place as there are better ones for the money you put into the Zalman. But lets see if we can get it to be more efficient by redoing the thermal paste. I'm thinking you may have screwed up the thermal paste application when you had that snafoo with the CPU pulling out of the socket.

So, the best way to apply thermal paste to a cooler base like you have is to take a paper coffee filter moistened with some rubbing alcohol and thoroughly clean both surfaces of the old paste first. Be careful when removing the heatsink to not lift up but twist gently form side to side until it breaks loose.

When the surfaces are clean, squeeze a small dollup of paste onto the center of the CPU face. The dollup should not be much bigger than a BB. Then lower the cooler onto the heatsink, twist one way and then the other one time - about 20 degrees rotation. Clamp it down. This is actually better than trying to spread it with your finger.

 

[trents]

I would use the Arctic Alumina if that's what you have or better yet if stores are still open get a small tube of Arctic Silver 5. It's kind of the old stand by around the overclocking communiiy. I've got to go to granny's house now as my daughter is home and we're going to granny's house for tacos. Catch you later.